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Beautiful Feet
February 24th, 2009, 07:41 AM
It is all about control and influence. I am not sure we will see the final "mark" either. At least, the Scriptures don't seem to point in that direction. But what I do expect to see is the ability to track vast amounts of information in a computer system that becomes more and more centralized.

Right now, we are not there. Even smart cards IMO are mild compared to what lies ahead.

In order for a global system to be efficient, the speed of processing information has to be amazingly quick. I may be wrong, but I think I have read there are systems in place which do this on a small scale but certainly not on a national scale, yet alone global scale.

Smart cards are definitely a step in that direction. If a country can make them mandatory, then the government can work out the kinks of commanding vast amounts of information.

Sounds like India will be one of the first to pioneer this. :sad

Waiting4Jesus
February 24th, 2009, 08:33 AM
But then i remembered that i have been stockpiling food, and they know exactly what i have.

I'm sorry, I forget who said the above quote (lol), but you know, I have been thinking this very thing the other day...my supermarket discount card will reveal everything I have bought and I have been doing a wee bit of "stockpiling" this past week.

It's scary to think that "they" will KNOW that!!!!!!!!! Should we stop using these grocery-store discount cards and just pay full price without the card? What do y'all think???

:thinking

Hootmon
February 24th, 2009, 08:37 AM
The Mark is Closer Than We Think! As long as stores still take cash, there isnt any cause for panic.

Holding Pattern
February 24th, 2009, 08:45 AM
Every credit card tracks everything you purchase..
american express actually canceled cards and lowered the limits of many members after they shoped at Wal-Mart and used their american express card there.
Their logic was, 'many customers that use our credit card at Wal-Mart tend to make payments late' so they lowered peoples credit limits.. not that I have a problem with that, but the tracking has been going on for years.

100% correct. It's old hat...and they track more than just your purchases. When you sign up for a credit card, you agree that they can run credit checks on you whenever they please and there is massive cross-communication...if you're late on one card, they all can hike their rates. It's something you agree to when you sign up for the card...it's all there in writing.
I don't like it, but I signed the terms and agreements.

razberry
February 24th, 2009, 09:06 AM
http://www.verichipcorp.com/content/company/rfidtags

VeriChip products marked by the Implantable icon mean they utilize the implantable, passive RFID microchip, the VeriChip, in their solutions for the purpose of automatic identification.

About the size of a grain of rice, the microchip inserts just under the skin and contains only a unique, 16-digit identifier. The chip itself does not contain any other data other than this unique electronic ID, nor does it contain any Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking capabilities. And unlike conventional forms of identification, the VeriChip cannot be lost, stolen, misplaced, or counterfeited. It is safe, secure, reversible, and always with you.

Once inserted just under the skin, via a quick, painless outpatient procedure (much like getting a shot), the VeriChip can be scanned when necessary with a proprietary VeriChip reader, whether handheld or wall-mounted. A small amount of radio frequency energy passes from the reader energizing the dormant microchip which then emits a radio frequency signal transmitting the individuals unique verification number. This number can then be used for such purposes as accessing personal medical information in a password-protected database or assessing whether somebody has authority to enter into a high-security area.

VeriChip is the only company in the world today to offer an implantable FDA-cleared RFID microchip and offers this option in its VeriMed and VeriGuard systems.

Sundial
February 24th, 2009, 09:31 AM
I have a big breaking news to support the views of this thread.

Thank you for that information! :hat Love your avatar by the way. :yay :israel

Tall Timbers
February 24th, 2009, 09:38 AM
The credit card companies have a record of everything I've bought going years back. The rewards cards from the various stores I shop at that use those have a record of everything I've ever purchased at that store. The organizations I register my credit cards with so that a little money from my purchases gos to my kid's school has a record of everything I've purchased from every credit card I have registered with them... and the list gos on. I too, have a record of everything I've purchased that gos all the way back to around 1992 (quicken). The record is probably more useful to me than it is to all these other companies, though they can use it to target me for specific marketing, which is a good thing if I'm offered deals on things I might want.

Silver
February 24th, 2009, 09:43 AM
(However, those have begun to show serious drawbacks; pets with implanted chips have often suffered cancers at the site of the implantation,)

Rev. 16:2 (KJV)
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

Raynbowz
February 24th, 2009, 12:14 PM
http://www.verichipcorp.com/content/company/rfidtags

VeriChip products marked by the Implantable icon mean they utilize the implantable, passive RFID microchip, the VeriChip, in their solutions for the purpose of automatic identification.

About the size of a grain of rice, the microchip inserts just under the skin and contains only a unique, 16-digit identifier. The chip itself does not contain any other data other than this unique electronic ID, nor does it contain any Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking capabilities. And unlike conventional forms of identification, the VeriChip cannot be lost, stolen, misplaced, or counterfeited. It is safe, secure, reversible, and always with you.

Once inserted just under the skin, via a quick, painless outpatient procedure (much like getting a shot), the VeriChip can be scanned when necessary with a proprietary VeriChip reader, whether handheld or wall-mounted. A small amount of radio frequency energy passes from the reader energizing the dormant microchip which then emits a radio frequency signal transmitting the individuals unique verification number. This number can then be used for such purposes as accessing personal medical information in a password-protected database or assessing whether somebody has authority to enter into a high-security area.

VeriChip is the only company in the world today to offer an implantable FDA-cleared RFID microchip and offers this option in its VeriMed and VeriGuard systems.


All right, THAT'S scary! Mark, here we come! :fear
Rayn

Rockofages
February 24th, 2009, 12:51 PM
I have been wondering how the poor people in India, i mean they are really really poor people are going to come under the card system. Thanks to our government they have made it mandatory so even if a person is not willing to use a smart card he needs to learn it somehow(illiteracy is not an excuse!!) because he is not going to get any food from the government ration shops. This has answered me one thing when the government brings it as a law people have no option but to follow the rules.