The Mark of the Beast Chip Thread *Merged*

[Neen273]

Interesting thought about the mark needing to be visible...perhaps they will combine the chip and the tattoo somehow then. But if it's only a tattoo, and people are still using debit/credit cards, then it is up to individual cashiers/business owners whether to let the customer complete the transaction or not. That is not absolute enough, imo. It needs to be completely impossible for people to buy and sell, not nearly impossible. Besides, debit/credit cards are issued by banking institutions and financial corporations..they aren't tied into the NWO beast system.

[Kelly4C]

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings.

"There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind," said Ahmadinejad in a meeting with Afghan Sunni and Shiite ulama at Iranian Embassy in Kabul.

President Ahmadinejad said nations are today distancing themselves from culture of materialism and selfishness and look for a new way for their prosperity, that is the path of Islam.

He said that the world is on verge of a great upheaval and ulama at this juncture shoulder a heavy responsibility that is introducing genuine Islam as it is.

"Nations today have no haven but religion," the Iranian president announced, cautioning Muslim nations against enemies' divisive plots.

He said, "All of us have the duty to resist the enemy by closing our ranks."
He said that the Iranian nation today feels more than ever the need to stand beside the Afghan nation.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran has kindly received their Afghan brothers and will continue to do so in future. Minor issues will cannot affect Iran's policies on Afghanistan," he added.

The president said Islam belongs to all generations and Muslims should get ready for global mission of Islam.

http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-234/0708142013173859.htm

[Hootmon]

The word translated as 'mark' (charagma) implies a surface 'etching' of some kind. A tattoo would certainly be plausable.

[CelticMist]

gracethrufaith.com (http://gracethrufaith.com/) wrote:


The Bible doesn't give a reason specifically, but the right hand and
forehead are two very conspicuous places. The mark would be very easy
to spot there and its absence quickly noticeable. In Ezekiel 9, God
had an angel mark all those in Jerusalem who were faithful to Him to
protect them before destroying the city. And in Rev. 9 the locusts are
forbidden from harming those who bear the seal of God. Both of these
are likely supernatural seals invisible to the human eye, but both are
in the forehead. Perhaps the mark of the beast is one of Satan's many
efforts at copying God.

Lord bless,
Jack

[xtremeblvr]

Interesting thought about the mark needing to be visible...perhaps they will combine the chip and the tattoo somehow then. But if it's only a tattoo, and people are still using debit/credit cards, then it is up to individual cashiers/business owners whether to let the customer complete the transaction or not. That is not absolute enough, imo. It needs to be completely impossible for people to buy and sell, not nearly impossible. Besides, debit/credit cards are issued by banking institutions and financial corporations..they aren't tied into the NWO beast system.

fwiw, i agree 100%. a lot of people are freaking out becuase of these rfid chips. right NOW, if someone were to get chipped, THAT IS NOT THE MARK OF THE BEAST. i want that to be very clear to folks.

the MOB will not be implemented until halfway through the tribulation. there could certainly be lots of folks already chipped in order to perfect the technology and to dull sensativity to such a thing, but without some sort of pledge of allegiance to the AC, the chip is just a piece of titanium - or whatever they're made out of.

there are 3 main reasons the MOB must include BOTH visual and electronic characteristics...

1st: a TATTOO of some sort! the AC will want it to be clearly seen for identification purposes (so officials can quickly spot someone without it).

2nd: a RFID CHIP! in order to control the buying/selling of goods, ALL TRANSACTIONS will have to be done electronically. with everyone on a chip network, this will enable the government of the AC to cut someone off with the push of a button fulfilling revelation ch. 13... or simply to restrict folks from buying/selling without the chip to access funds.

3rd: more CHIP stuff! GPS! with the chips, AC will always know where people are... easier for the police to snatch ya up.

i think the barter system will play a role to some extent, but now we're talkin' survival during the trib. yikes! i'm glad i'll be watching from up above!! :pray


13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
this is just my somewhat educated guess. but it makes sense to me.

by the way: i doubt that the sores will be from leaky chips. the sores spoken of in revelation will no doubt cover a person not unlike chicken pox but probably much more severely. lithium leaks would most likely cause a localized sore/boil. IMHO.

ybic,
mike

[Hootmon]

xtremeblvr
:agree

[Weirdo4Christ]

http://www.campaignfortruth.com/Eclub/231104/CTM%20-%20history%20of%20implantible%20ic.htm


"RFID Implantable Biochips
GPS technology took a quantum leap with the development of bionics capable of being tracked by satellite once implanted in animals or humans. These tiny devices, powered by a lithium battery, could be geographically detected, using Radio Frequency Identification (RFID), to within inches anywhere on the surface of the planet. Lithium is employed as a miniature power-plant for the chip since it self-energises through changes in the host's body temperature. Thus the site for the implant will usually be those body parts demonstrating the greatest variations in temperature - in the back of the hand or front of the head. Lithium does have one drawback, experts say. It produces an infection when brought into contact with exposed organic tissue."

Well, there go my doubts about the mark of the beast being anything other than implantable chips....the sores the mark-takers receive are probably due to leaking batteries....

I read a report somewhere that the new paint that can be tattooed can also cause a blister in a small portion of the population. There is a slight chance of an allergic reaction because of the ingredients of the tattoo ink.

[Neen273]

by the way: i doubt that the sores will be from leaky chips. the sores spoken of in revelation will no doubt cover a person not unlike chicken pox but probably much more severely. lithium leaks would most likely cause a localized sore/boil. IMHO.

ybic,
mike

Well, I don't think it's mere coincidence that lithium causes infections..besides, Revelation doesn't say "sores" it says "a sore."

Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image.

[forbygrace]

I would also think that it will need to be a mark that somehow can easily be detected from a reasonable distance by the AC's police forces if it is just painted on by the person themselves. Otherwise, there could be people who use markers or paint of some sort to just draw it on themselves. I know they wouldn't be able to buy or sell without the real thing, but this way could they not pass by a security check if they had a fraudulent one, and perhaps slip out into the wilderness somewhere and live on their caches of supplies?
At any rate, I'm sure the AC and his minions will think of everything.

[Weirdo4Christ]

It sounds like the movie Logan's Run....