The Mark of the Beast Chip Thread *Merged*

[Stratosfear]

Since we don't intend to be around then, does it really matter?

But to offer an answer to your query, it could very well be some sort of implanted microchip, in which case it will be "in" the skin, leaving a scar "on" the skin. (I know, that's a cop-out answer. Sorry.)

[Mountain Girl]

Thank you for your answers. They were helpful.

I have another question........if the day comes where the government wants to implant us w/ a chip, or mark us w/ a tatoo that is used for the sole purpose of containing our financial information, medical information, and/or a way to track people with the intention of being able to locate loved ones who are lost, kidnapped, mia, etc., but no mention of worshipping anyone, would you take it? What if it were mandatory because the government wanted a cashless society to put a dent in crime?

[Rhon]

Thank you for your answers. They were helpful.

I have another question........if the day comes where the government wants to implant us w/ a chip, or mark us w/ a tatoo that is used for the sole purpose of containing our financial information, medical information, and/or a way to track people with the intention of being able to locate loved ones who are lost, kidnapped, mia, etc., but no mention of worshipping anyone, would you take it? What if it were mandatory because the government wanted a cashless society to put a dent in crime?

No matter what the reason it would be for, I have no intent of taking any type of mark or chip. If it were to become mandatory, I would put my trust in God.

I also don't believe in what if's. I live day to day, as the Word of the Lord tells us in Matthew 6:34 "So do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
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[Little Bug]

No matter what the reason it would be for, I have no intent of taking any type of mark or chip. If it were to become mandatory, I would put my trust in God.

I also don't believe in what if's. I live day to day, as the Word of the Lord tells us in Matthew 6:34 "So do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
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MEGA DITTOS to Rhon's response here! :thumb

And, Rhon, I just LOVE Matthew 6:34!! It is so VERY APPROPRIATE for me!!! (I am such a worrier!!!:sad) Reading this verse, for me, is almost like hearing our Lord's voice. Truly! I can almost HEAR Him! It is sooooo consoling and loving! :sob I'm gonna cry now. This verse goes directly to my heart!!!

[Rhon]

MEGA DITTOS to Rhon's response here! :thumb

And, Rhon, I just LOVE Matthew 6:34!! It is so VERY APPROPRIATE for me!!! (I am such a worrier!!!:sad) Reading this verse, for me, is almost like hearing our Lord's voice. Truly! I can almost HEAR Him! It is sooooo consoling and loving! :sob I'm gonna cry now. This verse goes directly to my heart!!!

Awwwww :hug :console

[3rdWatch]

....if the day comes where the government wants to implant us w/ a chip, or mark us w/ a tatoo that is used for the sole purpose of containing our financial information, medical information, and/or a way to track people with the intention of being able to locate loved ones who are lost, kidnapped, mia, etc., but no mention of worshipping anyone, would you take it? What if it were mandatory because the government wanted a cashless society to put a dent in crime?

If ( GOD FORBID ) we are here when this happens we DO NOT take the mark -- no matter what. we must have it fixed in our minds and hearts that we DO NOT take the mark. We only Trust GOD ... it doesn't matter what men may do -- we only Trust GOD ....

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

I do not believe that this verse refers to us, but if it does .... We DO NOT take the mark ... no matter what -- We only Trust the Living GOD -- our LORD and Saviour Jesus Christ ...

If we are still here, we'll see strong delusion that might decieve even the elect, if it's possible -- so no matter what we see, no matter what is threatened against us, We only Trust the Living GOD -- the LORD GOD of the Bible ... :preach

i'll step off the soapbox now ... ahem, excuse me -- but we really must have this fixed in our hearts and minds ...

[Tres Wright]

Oh boy, another thread about the MOB :) I think this has got to be the one thing that people focus more attention on than anything else in Scripture. If one is a believer, then any discussion about the MOB is academic because the believer will not be here to see it implemented. How do we know this? Because of this passage:


Revelation 14:9-11

A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."

Taking the MOB has such serious, permanent consequences that God is going to send an angel to the earth to fly through the skies warning people not to take it. This event takes place at the midpoint of the Trib and tells us two things: 1) believers will have already been Raptured because the Trib is underway and 2) no one will have any doubt as to what the MOB is, it will be a clear and obvious act of giving one's allegiance to Satan.

We do not know if it's a tattoo, chip implant or something as yet unidentified. But we do know we'll never see it implemented unless we're able to watch from our higher vantage point :rapture

[dianamanwaring]

Thank you for your answers. They were helpful.

I have another question........if the day comes where the government wants to implant us w/ a chip, or mark us w/ a tatoo that is used for the sole purpose of containing our financial information, medical information, and/or a way to track people with the intention of being able to locate loved ones who are lost, kidnapped, mia, etc., but no mention of worshipping anyone, would you take it? What if it were mandatory because the government wanted a cashless society to put a dent in crime?

Several weeks ago I posted a copy of some of the questions that the Zogby group emailed me. I get these about once or twice a month, and that day's poll started off with questions about my opinions of President Obama's performance and how I was affected by the economy.

Then the weird stuff - there were several questions about under what circumstances would I allow a brain chip implant. They were basically "what if" type questions - what if this would give you perfect health, what if this would give you perfect knowledge, etc, etc. In the same survey they asked questions about medical conditions and prescriptions I was on.

I emailed the Zogby organization and asked them for the reasons behind such personal questions and the brain chip questions. More importantly - I asked who commissioned the poll. They never got back to me, of course. :tsk

Whether the mark of the beast would be a chip, or literal mark/tattoo doesn't matter. We won't be here for it anyway and I can't wait for the rapture! If prior to the rapture our government requires mandatory vaccinations for the swine flu, I will refuse. The vaccine hasn't been out long enough for the powers-that-be to be able to say it is safe.

[Mountain Girl]

I'm with you on not taking a mark. I will refuse, regardless of the consequences. The reason I asked is, I've read Christian responses before that said if the scenario I presented above were the case, then that wouldn't be the mark of the beast, and they would take it.

As far as "what if" scenarios, they ARE beneficial to us. They inspire us to come up with plans for events that are within the realm of possibility. "What if there's a fire? What is the escape plan?" "What if one of us gets sick?" "What if we have car trouble, should we get a Triple AAA plan?" The list is unending. The reasons I gave for implementing devices, or tattoos, is already being discussed. Devices that are capable of holding our personal information are being developed now.

We are already chipping animals in case they get lost, or stolen, and we mark them with a tattoo when they get spayed.

I wish there was a way for all Christians who are against chipping/marking, for any reason, to make a united stand with a loud voice that we will refuse it, no matter what, and to have a platform to support other Christians.

I heard Perry Stone say that some people will do anything if you tell them you'll give them money, and food. How true this is.

I hope the poster is right that said we won't be here when "the mark" happens. I look with great anticipation to the day that I enter the Lords presence, whether it happens through the Rapture, or death. But, wouldn't it be a positive thing if Christians let it be known they would NOT be getting chipped, as a group united?

[Mountain Girl]

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Then the weird stuff - there were several questions about under what circumstances would I allow a brain chip implant. They were basically "what if" type questions - what if this would give you perfect health, what if this would give you perfect knowledge, etc, etc. In the same survey they asked questions about medical conditions and prescriptions I was on.


Those are some pretty wild questions to be asking in a poll. I guess it's part of the groundwork to condition people, to get them used to the idea of implants.

In the last twenty years, or so, we've seen young people caught up in a fad of getting tattoos. I think this makes inroads in a plan to "mark" people.

The reason I asked the question, is there seems to be a controversy among some Christians as to whether a chip implant is a good thing or not. Chipping alzheimer's patients sounds like a good plan. Chipping soldiers sounds good, in case they are captured by the enemy, the government can't track their whereabouts and find them.