The Mark of the Beast Chip Thread *Merged*

[WCG777]

Then if your left behind take the mark and just make sure to cut your hand off in year six. I dont think it will work that way and i would not do it but i guess if you are so sure that loop hole is there i guess you can try it and hope it is a loop hole

I see no reason not to take the mark if your sure that loop hole is there.

[denny272]

Then if your left behind take the mark and just make sure to cut your hand off in year six. I dont think it will work that way and i would not do it but i guess if you are so sure that loop hole is there i guess you can try it and hope it is a loop hole

I see no reason not to take the mark if your sure that loop hole is there.

Again, I don't plan to be here then. It's not my problem. I'm only stating my opinion on the matter for the poor souls who are left behind.

[Julian4JC]

I think the rules of "free choice" still apply even after we are raptured. The AC can't force someone to be damned to hell for eternity. He knows very well once someone takes the mark they will go to Hell, so he can't go against Gods set rules of what he can and can not do. I belive there will be those who will ask the AC to just force people to take the mark against their will, but he will not allow it, because God will not let him.

[WCG777]

I wont be here either but wouldnt it be helpful to be able to tell are friends and family left behind to accept the mark and just be sure to cut your hand off in year 6. i dont think that loop hole is there but apparanetely some people do

[WCG777]

I think the rules of "free choice" still apply even after we are raptured. The AC can't force someone to be damned to hell for eternity. He knows very well once someone takes the mark they will go to Hell, so he can't go against Gods set rules of what he can and can not do. I belive there will be those who will ask the AC to just force people to take the mark against their will, but he will not allow it, because God will not let him.

finally someone i can agree with the mark of the beat is not something to be taken lightly and there is no loop hole once you take it and it can not be forced upon you.

[Hootmon]

As long as that person lives I don't see why they would not be able to change their mind. Would that apply to Judas after he betrayed Jesus? Maybe if he cut off his lips, perhaps?



Removing the offending appendage removes the previously given allegience. Id like to see Scripture to back up that notion.



Jesus clearly states that is an acceptable solution. A solution to the relevant offense.

Besides, the mark wont invlove the eye anyways, so hoiw is it an acceptable solutuion to the problem? Rip off the forhead?



Can you give another scripturally relevant reason why Jesus would instruct you to pluck out your eye or chop off your hand in order to save your soul from hell?If you refer back to the context, the offence was adulterous lust.

Here is the whole thing in context...


You have heard that it was said to the ancients, "You shall not commit adultery." But I say to you that whoever looks on a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. And if your right eye offends you, pluck it out and throw it from you. For it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish, and not that your whole body should be thrown into hell. And if your right hand offends you, cut it off and throw it from you. For it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish, and not that your whole body should be thrown into hell.
(Mat 5:27-30)

If you cant stop looking, rip out your eye. If you cant stop touching, cut off your hand.



The last time I checked repentance, faith and grace is the road to Heaven. Self mulilation was not required for forgiveness of sins, but it reasonably applies here.Self mutilation was never required for forgiveness. Im sorry, but you are wrong about this.

[WCG777]

I am not sure but wasnt it David in the bible who used hot coals to purify his lips. If anyone says this is not mutilation like cutting off your hand or plucking out your eye I welcome you next time you bbq to go ahead and pick up a hot coal and give it a kiss.

[icebear]

if being forced to have the mark inserted automatically negated salvation, all the AC would have to do to gas people and have the mark applied while they are out cold, therefore preventing thousands of people from entering Heaven.

so if the AC can physically force the mark on people, does this mean God cannot save these victims?
:scratch

[FaithContender]

Nobody can be forced to accept the MOB!!!

[Metania1]

if being forced to have the mark inserted automatically negated salvation, all the AC would have to do to gas people and have the mark applied while they are out cold, therefore preventing thousands of people from entering Heaven.

so if the AC can physically force the mark on people, does this mean God cannot save these victims?
:scratch

I don't think this is Satan's m.o. In the garden satan influenced Adam and Eve. It became an act of willful disobedience against God on their part and satan loved the fact that he influenced the out come. What satisfaction would satan get if the mark was forced? Was a choice offered between himself and God? Where is the expression of pride in forcing the mark?