The Mark of the Beast Chip Thread *Merged*

[Stump]

Tall Timbers, you changed your avatar. I had to do a double take.:shocked Back on subject, I haven't a doubt in my mind that when it is time for those to accept the mark of the beast, they will know exactly what they are accepting.

[Sundial]

I think we know the New World Order is about to emerge--complete with a new currency. And should that also include taking the chip under the guise of citizen protection and banking, would you take it? What if it doesn't clearly demonstrate what the bible foretells--taking the number of the Beast? And worse case scenario: What if you couldn't complete transactions without it?

I'm putting this out here because I know for a fact my passport has a chip. It's just a matter of time when I may have to consider taking the chip.

[jjayguy23]

Please tell me how you are linking the number of the beast with and RFID chip??

[EndIsNear]

I think we know the New World Order is about to emerge--complete with a new currency. And should that also include taking the chip under the guise of citizen protection and banking, would you take it? What if it doesn't clearly demonstrate what the bible foretells--taking the number of the Beast? And worse case scenario: What if you couldn't complete transactions without it?

I'm putting this out here because I know for a fact my passport has a chip. It's just a matter of time when I may have to consider taking the chip.

Well, since it's no Mark of the Beast, then I might. Not anywhere on my body, though, ever.

[He Had Mercy]

Knowing these scriptures:


“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”Revelations 13:16-18

AND

“And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.” Revelations 14:9-13

NO!

[EndIsNear]

Knowing these scriptures:

“And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.” Revelations 14:9-13

NO!

Taking the Mark of the Beast is a willful act of worship. It goes on your right hand or forehead, not your passport. The rapture hasn't happened yet. The worship of the AC has not yet begun. This is no Mark of the Beast.

[BornAgain123]

The Mark of the Beast or no, from what I understand, having that chip implanted causes health risks(i.e. cancer). I wouldn't even touch it with a 10 foot pole, even if it means losing your job over it.

[He Had Mercy]

Forgot to mention this article I read some time ago.......interesting read.

Chip Implants Linked to Animal Tumors

By TODD LEWAN
The Associated Press
Saturday, September 8, 2007; 2:04 PM



-- When the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved implanting microchips in humans, the manufacturer said it would save lives, letting doctors scan the tiny transponders to access patients' medical records almost instantly. The FDA found "reasonable assurance" the device was safe, and a sub-agency even called it one of 2005's top "innovative technologies."

But neither the company nor the regulators publicly mentioned this: A series of veterinary and toxicology studies, dating to the mid-1990s, stated that chip implants had "induced" malignant tumors in some lab mice and rats.

"The transponders were the cause of the tumors," said Keith Johnson, a retired toxicologic pathologist, explaining in a phone interview the findings of a 1996 study he led at the Dow Chemical Co. in Midland, Mich.

Leading cancer specialists reviewed the research for The Associated Press and, while cautioning that animal test results do not necessarily apply to humans, said the findings troubled them. Some said they would not allow family members to receive implants, and all urged further research before the glass-encased transponders are widely implanted in people.

To date, about 2,000 of the so-called radio frequency identification, or RFID, devices have been implanted in humans worldwide, according to VeriChip Corp. The company, which sees a target market of 45 million Americans for its medical monitoring chips, insists the devices are safe, as does its parent company, Applied Digital Solutions, of Delray Beach, Fla.

"We stand by our implantable products which have been approved by the FDA and/or other U.S. regulatory authorities," Scott Silverman, VeriChip Corp. chairman and chief executive officer, said in a written response to AP questions.

The company was "not aware of any studies that have resulted in malignant tumors in laboratory rats, mice and certainly not dogs or cats," but he added that millions of domestic pets have been implanted with microchips, without reports of significant problems.

"In fact, for more than 15 years we have used our encapsulated glass transponders with FDA approved anti-migration caps and received no complaints regarding malignant tumors caused by our product."

The FDA also stands by its approval of the technology.

Did the agency know of the tumor findings before approving the chip implants? The FDA declined repeated AP requests to specify what studies it reviewed.

The FDA is overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services, which, at the time of VeriChip's approval, was headed by Tommy Thompson. Two weeks after the device's approval took effect on Jan. 10, 2005, Thompson left his Cabinet post, and within five months was a board member of VeriChip Corp. and Applied Digital Solutions. He was compensated in cash and stock options.

Thompson, until recently a candidate for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, says he had no personal relationship with the company as the VeriChip was being evaluated, nor did he play any role in FDA's approval process of the RFID tag.

"I didn't even know VeriChip before I stepped down from the Department of Health and Human Services," he said in a telephone interview.

Also making no mention of the findings on animal tumors was a June report by the ethics committee of the American Medical Association, which touted the benefits of implantable RFID devices.

Had committee members reviewed the literature on cancer in chipped animals?

No, said Dr. Steven Stack, an AMA board member with knowledge of the committee's review.

Was the AMA aware of the studies?

No, he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090800997_pf.html

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[ron4Jesus]

Well this chip if implemented is not the Mark of the Beast because this does not happen till 3 1/2 years in the tribulation.

[frodo82801]

Even if I wasn't a Christian, I wouldn't get chipped. I can't stand being monitored.