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Buzzardhut
August 14th, 2007, 06:42 AM
Try the Popcap (http://www.popcap.com/) games
They are a bit lame but enjoyable.

2nd Chance
August 14th, 2007, 12:05 PM
My wife and I have been avid gamers for YEARS. We've played lots of games we enjoyed together like the Might & Magic series, Heroes of Might & Magic, Nox, Elder Scrolls, and MMORPGS from UO to DAoC to WoW.:yay

Always in the back of my mind, at least, there was a tickling, faint nagging about this, but I ignored it, until recently. The Spirit has convicted both of us pretty much at the same time to stop playing fantasy/magic games of any type. Not to start an argument or convict anyone else, but the reasoning boils down to if God said it's a sin to imagine sleeping with another person, we think it may likewise be a sin to imagine being a spellcaster. :doh

So we cancelled our WoW accounts, and uninstalled many of our games like Neverwinter Nights I & II, Baldur's Gate, et al.:hehee

Bored...:panic

What else is out there in the RTS, strategy, online fun, or multi-player kind of arena that doesn't involve magic of ANY kind? Any suggestions? :idunno

Good for you!.:yay As a long time gamer i would recommend Rome Total war. I have played just about every title off the shelf in the past decade and this one is one of the most impressive i have ever played and has a great multilayer and high replay value. You also learn a little something about history in the process.

Stay away from the sims2.

NovaStorm
August 14th, 2007, 05:34 PM
NovaStorm, your explanation pretty well sums it up, thanks. I'll look into those other MMORPGS you mentioned.Here is another you may want to bookmark since you seem to like mmog's mentioning WoW. It's not finished yet, still in development, though not the greatest looking game, but the game play and community may be good. http://www.visionsgame.com/

Angyl
August 14th, 2007, 06:15 PM
Thanks!

And I don't know what you mean by player resurrection games. You mean like where you, the character dies and comes back?
Never really thought about it, but I don't think I'd have an issue with that if it were presented simply as, oof, you die, and poof, there you are again to keep going. It could get spiritual and uncomfortable if the game designers want to make it that way (resurrecting with priests around you chanting, etc.)

NovaStorm
August 14th, 2007, 07:13 PM
Thanks!

And I don't know what you mean by player resurrection games. Usually that is in persistent worlds; mmorpg's or MUD's. I mean like in a shooter you just respawn after death, but there is no RPG of that to explain it, just like getting a tag out in paint ball pretty much. Persistent RPG worlds are a little more complicated, where as it's mostly a requirement to put an explanation behind every action for sake of role-play.

MajinFro
August 14th, 2007, 11:00 PM
[quote=NovaStorm;145718]"all that you said"[quote]

the kind of people you describe are the kind I used to laugh at. I used to sit next to a guy in high school at lunch that would swear up and down he was a male witch and he conjurs pink elephants only he can see. (granted he ended up dying of a brain tumor....so maybe he did see pink elephants as tumors can do funny things to one's brain) I don't think games influence people to the point of completely changing their behavior from good boy/girl to repeat offenders or full on occult lovers. I can see where someone with a spirtual void might get into the occult based on a game but even when I had a void myself I found the whole magic idea as illogical as (I thought at the time and was wrong about) Christianity was. I think the problem with games is not that they are the cause of behaviors but attract people that have issues such as school shooters and whatnot.

All and all though I think it's a safe assumption that God does not approve of video games or various forms of entertainment the saved and unsaved choose.

NovaStorm
August 15th, 2007, 12:30 AM
the kind of people you describe are the kind I used to laugh at. I used to sit next to a guy in high school at lunch that would swear up and down he was a male witch and he conjurs pink elephants only he can see. (granted he ended up dying of a brain tumor....so maybe he did see pink elephants as tumors can do funny things to one's brain) I don't think games influence people to the point of completely changing their behavior from good boy/girl to repeat offenders or full on occult lovers. I can see where someone with a spirtual void might get into the occult based on a game but even when I had a void myself I found the whole magic idea as illogical as (I thought at the time and was wrong about) Christianity was. I think the problem with games is not that they are the cause of behaviors but attract people that have issues such as school shooters and whatnot.It’s human nature to mimic what we see. From cradle to grave we do this. Ever spend time with a baby or young child? they watch your every move and in time adopt the same patterns you show. It does not end at the conclusion of childhood, but the example is transparent for the point here.

It happens to adults with other forms of media such as music, the lyrics are washed through our brains over and over until it becomes presentable as something ok to do or to deem acceptable for others to practice. Such methods are used for real brain washing (by governments even), to listen to something over and over, or to participate or interact with something over and over. This happens to the extent that the participant looses rationel, that he or she is now doing something that once long ago went against their nature as it were.

This is also how they teach kids in school, ever do math drills? Repetition is a key factor in learning something so that one needs not even think about a formula to the question before they are able to present the answer; it’s automatic. It’s an automatic response that is conditioned into the mind of the recipient.

This is why we are instructed to wash the mind in the word of God. By doing so we are capable of mimicking the nature of our Lord by the teaching of the Holy Spirit. So too can one achieve such an effect by participating in a game/media that teaches such negative ideas such as the Occult, one becomes familiar with it, it does not become a shock to them, does not object to others participating in it and possibly begins to mimic the things that they repetitively witnessed through it. And it does not matter if it reaches that climax with one becoming a full blown member of some Occult sect, are we to pass by the warnings to others and let them become that which we feel we are too mature to become? Yet some have, and they never returned.


All and all though I think it's a safe assumption that God does not approve of video games or various forms of entertainment the saved and unsaved choose.That statement would be considered an indium called "throwing out the baby with the bath water" in that saying nothing is good thus elevating something that certainly is not good to the same level as something acceptable (yes I've studied psychology and counter-psychology). But some games certainly are ok to play while others are not.