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Mailman Dan
August 21st, 2009, 10:58 PM
Even if it is nearly right, it is still wrong; and therfore a false gospel and another Jesus.

Are you saying Ray Comfort is preaching another gospel?

If so, that would imply he's not saved.



Dan~~~>looking for clarity before responding this time

Mailman Dan
August 21st, 2009, 11:03 PM
And to correct an error that you made..


Gentiles were told to "Believe - on the Lord Jesus Christ" no where does it say 'first you must repent - then believe'.

That's exactly what the bible says...

Mark 1:15
and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.”

Acts 19:4
Then Paul said, “John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.”

So, yes it does....in that order.

Dan~~~>pointing out that repentance must happen in order to be saved...

m2pinggggggg
August 22nd, 2009, 12:21 AM
And to correct an error that you made..



That's exactly what the bible says...

Mark 1:15
and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.”

Acts 19:4
Then Paul said, “John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.”

So, yes it does....in that order.

Dan~~~>pointing out that repentance must happen in order to be saved...

Those are good, but quote me a Jesus one...please.

Mailman Dan
August 22nd, 2009, 06:00 AM
Those are good, but quote me a Jesus one...please.

All the bible is a Jesus one, as it's inspired by God, but if you want His quotes, they are the same..

One thing I learned about Jewish writting, when they want to say something important, they repeat it. We shout, or use caps, but they repeat.. Examples in the bible are things like "Holy, Holy, Holy" and "by their works you will know them." This topic just happens to be another example, as Jesus was showing it was important...


Luke 13:3
I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish



Luke 13:5
I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”



Luke 15:7
I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.


(notice it doesn't say joy over a sinners prayer or going to church)

Dan~~~>hopes that helps:thumb

Mailman Dan
August 23rd, 2009, 09:20 PM
I still have my favorites among the bunch..



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Gang members still take the cake..



Dan~~~>still waiting for a responce...from people that find this "appalling":thinking

RaptureReady_7
August 24th, 2009, 02:01 AM
I still have my favorites among the bunch..



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Gang members still take the cake..



Dan~~~>still waiting for a responce...from people that find this "appalling":thinking
Dan, I love Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron's Way Of The Master. Their approach is solid and biblical.

And they have such a heart for the lost and do more in one day than 90% of Christians will do their entire lives.

Most Christians sit and criticize instead of going out and preaching Jesus. Telling others what they are doing wrong while doing nothing themselves.

Because of Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, I have recognized that the Holy Spirit can work through me and I happily talk to others about Jesus, repentance and salvtion, at work especially. I tell people the biblical gospel. Repenting and believing on Jesus, that there is no other way.

Some have talked with me for hours about Jesus and salvation and others outright reject what I have to say. But I do not want to see anyone perish. Time is desperately short.

I watch The Way Of The Master every single week and try to learn as much as I can, plus Charles Stanley and other very solid biblical teachers. I have seen the looks on many that they have witnessed to when they finally realize that their "goodness" will not get them to Heaven and that they must, and do, repent and confess Jesus. Awedsome everytime I see that happen.

Dan, I know you have a real heart for the lost, I just wish that many more Christians would realize just how short time truly is.

John 4:34-35 (New King James Version)

34 Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work. 35 Do you not say, ‘There are still four months and then comes the harvest’? Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look at the fields, for they are already white for harvest!


Matthew 9:36-38 (New King James Version)

36 But when He saw the multitudes, He was moved with compassion for them, because they were weary[a] and scattered, like sheep having no shepherd. 37 Then He said to His disciples, “The harvest truly is plentiful, but the laborers are few. 38 Therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.”

Luke 10:1-3 (New King James Version)

The Seventy Sent Out
1 After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also,[a] and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go. 2 Then He said to them, “The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. 3 Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves.

Dan, I pray others will join the fight with Ray, Kirk and others so that we can rejoice in the Harvest.

SeekHimFirst
August 24th, 2009, 02:46 AM
GOD BLESS Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron, they're doing an AWESOME job of sharing the true Gospel and reaching the lost both IN and OUT of the church! :thumb

SHF <><

Mailman Dan
August 24th, 2009, 05:51 AM
Our teams around Dallas are getting ready for the state fair...

Big, big event.. can't wait... There are several different groups from WOTM that will be there at different times.. Fish with Trish will probably be there for wretched interviews at least once..


Dan~~~>kind of looking foward to fried food too...:heh

evjr
August 24th, 2009, 01:19 PM
Extra! Extra! Extra! Hear all about it from Ray comfort, your roving reporter for the Legalistic Times!

Salvation is more than faith in Jesus Christ folks. The girl said she believes and has faith in Jesus and reads her Bible. But it’s not good enough; God got it wrong! You have to do Works! Works! Works! Clean up your life, repent of all your sin, stop sinning and then, and only then will you be saved!

The girl was right. Ray Comfort has little faith; he only understands ‘plus works’. This is not The Gospel of The Lord Jesus Christ.

What must I do to be saved? Believe on The Lord Jesus Christ ------Acts 16:30-31.

Never mind that I think this appalling. Of far greater importance is what does The Word of God say about adding or subtracting from God’s Word? :tsk

With all due respect, you have it wrong about The Way of the Master ministry. Please study the pages of the Bible in regards to man's sinful condition and evangelism, how the apostles witnessed, the history of the church, famous past preachers (Spurgeon, Whitefield, Edwards, Moody, Henry, Luther, etc. etc.).
I've followed their ministry for about 5 yrs. now and I've seen most if not all of their videos and witnessing clips - and they're all right on target!
The point being about works is James 2:14-26. Faith without works is DEAD! So in other words, if you truly are a Christian you will have fruit from your life to back it up. (and we're not talking about the thief on the cross here)
And if you truly are a Christian YOU WILL STOP SINNING. You won't be perfect, but a Christians life is characterized by falling into sin NOT diving into sin.

This is it- you come to the Lord with all of your sins, admitting and confessing that you're a sinner, wretched and wicked, willing to confess and forsake them (as the Bible says) THEN you receive his gift for you on the cross (His atoning sacrifice) and put your trust in Him to save you. His blood washes you clean and He cleans you from the inside out and makes you a new creature with a new heart and new desires! That's it! Then your life is characterized by rightful living in honor and glory to Him. Amazing gospel and amazing God that we serve! Hallelujah! :yeah

This is what WOTM believes and is what they preach - which is right on. :thumb

SoundingtheAlarm
August 24th, 2009, 01:26 PM
Extra! Extra! Extra! Hear all about it from Ray comfort, your roving reporter for the Legalistic Times!

Salvation is more than faith in Jesus Christ folks. The girl said she believes and has faith in Jesus and reads her Bible. But it’s not good enough; God got it wrong! You have to do Works! Works! Works! Clean up your life, repent of all your sin, stop sinning and then, and only then will you be saved!

The girl was right. Ray Comfort has little faith; he only understands ‘plus works’. This is not The Gospel of The Lord Jesus Christ.

What must I do to be saved? Believe on The Lord Jesus Christ ------Acts 16:30-31.

Never mind that I think this appalling. Of far greater importance is what does The Word of God say about adding or subtracting from God’s Word? :tsk


I would take heed to Jude's warning

Contend for the Faith
3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. 4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.


[B]Old and New Apostates


5 But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.



A Gospel without Repentance is NOT THE GOSPEL