Ammillenianist Tim Conway on Dispensationalism

[grounded]

I stopped at the point where he asked that I name Gentile believers in the OT. He said I could count them on one hand - let's see:
Uhh - anyone prior to Abraham (Adam,Eve,Noah,Job)
Melchisedec
Ruth
Rahab
David's "Mighty Men" (Uriah the HITTITE was one)
The list goes on...................


God's message was to be delivered through the Jews in the OT to all nations, not to them alone. Why was there a Gentile court in the Temple if otherwise?

I thought his arguments, as a whole, were not well thought out because, as he admitted, he doesn't know that much about dispensationalism.

[Looking^]

What is progressive dispensationalism?

[Perpetua]

What is progressive dispensationalism?

This link gives a good overview of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_dispensationalism

It began in the 1980s, and is held generally by Calvinist-Dispensationals. Blaising and Bock, and Saucy, have published books describing it. John MacArthur, though he would probably not use the label, would fall into the general category of PD. There are variations within PD, but the major differences from classic dispensationalism include:

1. "for traditional dispensationalists, the only relationship between the dispensations is chronologically successive." PDs see the present age of grace as a vital link in God's plan of redemption, not just a parenthesis.
2. One New Covenant "with an ongoing partial fulfillment and a future complete fulfillment for Israel." (Some Classic dispensationalim authors saw two separate new covenants, one for Israel, one for the Church, or other variations.) "Progressives hold that while there are aspects of the new covenant currently being fulfilled, there is yet to be a final and complete fulfillment of the new covenant in the future. This concept is sometimes referred to as an "already-but-not-yet" fulfillment."

[LindaR]

What is progressive dispensationalism?
Here's a link where you can purchase a book about it:

Progressive Dispensationalism (http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/dispen/bigalke.htm)

[Amber Lynne]

I swear I thought this was gonna be the Carol Burnett Tim Conway! :lol

[Seated]

I swear I thought this was gonna be the Carol Burnett Tim Conway! :lol

The difference may be smaller than you think. :thinking

[Amber Lynne]

The difference may be smaller than you think. :thinking

:rotfl

[Looking^]

This link gives a good overview of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_dispensationalism

It began in the 1980s, and is held generally by Calvinist-Dispensationals. Blaising and Bock, and Saucy, have published books describing it. John MacArthur, though he would probably not use the label, would fall into the general category of PD. There are variations within PD, but the major differences from classic dispensationalism include:

1. "for traditional dispensationalists, the only relationship between the dispensations is chronologically successive." PDs see the present age of grace as a vital link in God's plan of redemption, not just a parenthesis.
2. One New Covenant "with an ongoing partial fulfillment and a future complete fulfillment for Israel." (Some Classic dispensationalim authors saw two separate new covenants, one for Israel, one for the Church, or other variations.) "Progressives hold that while there are aspects of the new covenant currently being fulfilled, there is yet to be a final and complete fulfillment of the new covenant in the future. This concept is sometimes referred to as an "already-but-not-yet" fulfillment."

So now I know what to call myself...haha:lol2

[MidnightWatcher]

What is progressive dispensationalism?
There is a good explanation as well here (http://www.pfrs.org/pd/001.html).

[petras]

i emailed the site that has tim conway on it. i asked how if the rapture is garbage as tim says, why do they also have a clip of john maccarthur on the site. some of what i have learned ive learned from listening to johns teaching on such things as the rapture. the site cant uphold both as good teachers if one is teaching garbage. im waiting a reply