Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

[Indiana Janz]

I just saw your post, IJ, when I was previewing mine for typos:

A) I mean it's the same old left-wing rhetoric, no idea is new at all.

B) LOL, Ron Paul's on the libertarian left, never been mainstream conservative.

Even so, he dissents from THOSE points. Try emailing them to him an see his response...post it here too, if you can.




Yeah. A conservative American member of Congress that agrees with her far-left thesis would be fine. Or any conservative at all that's on record.

I'll elaborate...one of her 10 "Points":



Now, what's radical about THAT? Viva la revoultion, comrade.

Ron Paul is on the libertarian left? Are we talking about the same Ron Paul?

[Indiana Janz]

Anyway, I don't agree with everything she says in that article, but the main points have validity.

[Ripped]

Ron Paul is on the libertarian left? Are we talking about the same Ron Paul?

I've got to go five minutes ago, but, yes. The guy in Texas, Ron Paul?

He ran for president as a Libertarian years ago. He's still a big isolationist with some, umm, "unorthdox" views. He ran as a Republican because he wanted to win an election in that part of Texas.

The conservative?

7. Target key individuals

Threaten civil servants, artists and academics with job loss if they don't toe the line. Mussolini went after the rectors of state universities who did not conform to the fascist line; so did Joseph Goebbels, who purged academics who were not pro-Nazi; so did Chile's Augusto Pinochet; so does the Chinese communist Politburo.


Ahhhh. Uncle Joe would be so proud!

[BloodoftheLamb]

It's God's will that America becomes a fascist nation and that Christians are persecuted?

Anyone who answers a question with a question just admitted they have no answer.

[Indiana Janz]

Anyone who answers a question with a question just admitted they have no answer.

No. Your post was unclear.

Are you saying that it's God's will that America becomes a tyranny and Christians are persecuted?

[BloodoftheLamb]

No. Your post was unclear.

Are you saying that it's God's will that America becomes a tyranny and Christians are persecuted?


Are you saying Christians will not be persecuted in the end times due to the actions of men?

[Indiana Janz]

Are you saying Christians will not be persecuted in the end times due to the actions of men?

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Does that mean you don't have an answer?

OK, I'll answer what I think you're getting at. You asked if anyone could thwart God's will. I guess you mean that since we know Christians will be persecuted in the end times, it's pointless to try and change it.

Let me ask you this question: Are you perhaps confusing God's prophecy with God's will? What I mean is, just because God tells us something is going to happen in the end times, does that mean He wants it to happen? Personally, I'm not going to accept anything I think is wrong, just because I know it's going to happen. Why are you doing that?

I find it especially ironic that it is conservative, Christian, prophecy related message boards where the least acceptance of the reality of the times in which we live exists. We, of all people, should be sensitive to the birth signs of the antichrist's global police state.

Yet, we have end times Christians with an incredible amount of prophetic word laid out before them who still insist that it's not happening here because, by George, this is America, and we don't do that. Wake up. If even the godless see what is happening, what is our excuse?

America was founded on the principle of liberty for all men granted by the blessing of God. When did He change? When did America change? When did it become normal for Americans to decline the gift of living without tyranny? When was it established that the constitution would be interpreted by the people who rule you, rather than by you, the People?

To the rest of the world, America used to seem a lot freer than this. It's pretty shocking to see it go this way.

[Old 33]

Many of us have opposed various provisions of the Patriot Act and the other unchecked surveillance activities of the Bush Administration on principled, basic freedoms grounds. We genuinely believe that a President should not have that much unchecked power.

Regardless, though, people like Ripped have screamed that we're just opposing these things because we hate Bush.

I'm sorry for them, and for the nation, that they can't get past their partisanship and view the issue objectively.

[BloodoftheLamb]

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Does that mean you don't have an answer?

OK, I'll answer what I think you're getting at. You asked if anyone could thwart God's will. I guess you mean that since we know Christians will be persecuted in the end times, it's pointless to try and change it.

Let me ask you this question: Are you perhaps confusing God's prophecy with God's will? What I mean is, just because God tells us something is going to happen in the end times, does that mean He wants it to happen? Personally, I'm not going to accept anything I think is wrong, just because I know it's going to happen. Why are you doing that?

I find it especially ironic that it is conservative, Christian, prophecy related message boards where the least acceptance of the reality of the times in which we live exists. We, of all people, should be sensitive to the birth signs of the antichrist's global police state.

Yet, we have end times Christians with an incredible amount of prophetic word laid out before them who still insist that it's not happening here because, by George, this is America, and we don't do that. Wake up. If even the godless see what is happening, what is our excuse?

America was founded on the principle of liberty for all men granted by the blessing of God. When did He change? When did America change? When did it become normal for Americans to decline the gift of living without tyranny? When was it established that the constitution would be interpreted by the people who rule you, rather than by you, the People?

To the rest of the world, America used to seem a lot freer than this. It's pretty shocking to see it go this way.


Just playing the same game you do.

As an American with 46 years of experience living here.

It really doesnt feel any different to me.

Other then the atheist/homosexual agenda types are really pushing Christians into a corner, which is surpising/not surprising (satan), considering their numbers.

There are no jackboots on my corner.

[Ripped]

Left the cave?

Many of us have opposed various provisions of the Patriot Act and the other unchecked surveillance activities of the Bush Administration on principled, basic freedoms grounds. We genuinely believe that a President should not have that much unchecked power.

The Patriotic Acts isn't permanent, the ball's in your left court now. I'm not as worried about a handful of GITMO terrorists as others seem to be.

Show me these billion gadzillion "violations", please omit the pending Congressional legislation.

Bush never said that about the Constitution, you know. The OP was Marxist dogma, when Naomi Wolfe says "fascists", she means people to the right of Vladimir Lenin.



Regardless, though, people like Ripped have screamed that we're just opposing these things because we hate Bush.

No, I think this FAR predates Bush and that you wouldn't know a fascist state from a hole in the ground, except that this is advocating one, but that's another thread.



I'm sorry for them, and for the nation, that they can't get past their partisanship and view the issue objectively.

LOL, did you even read the article? It wasn't partisan?????