Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

[Indiana Janz]

Yeah, I know it's Naomi Wolf (from the Guardian, no less) and I don't agree with all of her examples, but what she is saying is basically true. And, as she points out, in a year and a half, Hillary might have all the power that Bush has accumulated.

If you ask me, it's a given that there will be a Democrat in power after 2008, and if you think that's bad enough, the fact that whoever is president will have all the power that Bush has accumulated for himself over the past six years should make your blood run cold.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html

[Librarian]

Yeah, I know it's Naomi Wolf (from the Guardian, no less) and I don't agree with all of her examples, but what she is saying is basically true. And, as she points out, in a year and a half, Hillary might have all the power that Bush has accumulated.

If you ask me, it's a given that there will be a Democrat in power after 2008, and if you think that's bad enough, the fact that whoever is president will have all the power that Bush has accumulated for himself over the past six years should make your blood run cold.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html

It doesn't scare me half as much as Bush having the power now.

[BloodoftheLamb]

Sounds like England not the US.

They have the best surveillance in the world.

I would not rubber stamp a democrat in the white house either.

Didnt they do that the last two times?

:pound

[Indiana Janz]

It doesn't scare me half as much as Bush having the power now.

It should scare anyone. The James Madison quote she ends with is why.

"The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands ... is the definition of tyranny."

[Leialoha]

No one...NO ONE was meant to hold that much power. I'm shocked that republicans have been ok with giving the president more and more.

I will vote constitutional party next time again.

[Austin]

Sounds like England not the US.

They have the best surveillance in the world.


Yes...but, all we have to do is put some up in the name of "fighting terrorism" and there ya go. What this article is trying to say is that this kind of stuff isn't far off, we need to be watchful of whats going on. And yes England has a TON of surveillance cameras all over the place ,London specifically, it's like Orwell's 1984 almost.

[Indiana Janz]

No one...NO ONE was meant to hold that much power. I'm shocked that republicans have been ok with giving the president more and more.

As Wolf points out, the excuse has been that America has always curtailed freedoms during times of war, so it's OK to infringe on them now. But as she also says, those infringements were only until hostilities ceased. With this brave new war on terror, there is no end in sight to hostilities -- thus, no end in sight to these abuses of freedom.

[zizi]

Yeah, I know it's Naomi Wolf (from the Guardian, no less) and I don't agree with all of her examples, but what she is saying is basically true. And, as she points out, in a year and a half, Hillary might have all the power that Bush has accumulated.

If you ask me, it's a given that there will be a Democrat in power after 2008, and if you think that's bad enough, the fact that whoever is president will have all the power that Bush has accumulated for himself over the past six years should make your blood run cold.

Interestingly, many of the Dem candidates in the running so far have pledged to put an end the Bush's Patriot Act.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin

[Indiana Janz]

Interestingly, many of the Dem candidates in the running so far have pledged to put an end the Bush's Patriot Act.

I don't believe that for a second. Once power belongs to that office, no one that holds it will ever willingly give it up.

[zizi]

I don't believe that for a second. Once power belongs to that office, no one that holds it will ever willingly give it up.


Well it's unconstitutional. If the Dems and Reps have one thing they can agree on, it should be this.

True old-school conservatives (see John Dean's book "Conservatives Without Conscience") and dyed in the wool libs both organize to do what they can to repudiate the Patriot Act. They've been working on it for years btw.

It's the wishy-washy middle, so busy singing tra-lah I don't mind if the Bush adm is bugging my calls and monitoring my mail because I'm not a terrorist, who have failed to hold their officials (especially this administration) to account. Seemed like a good idea back in the glory days of this war on terror. Folks failed to be forward-thinkers, and now there's a good chance the other party will be voted into presidency next year.

Here's something to give pause. There was an unexploded bomb capable of causing massive bodily injuries and/or death found at an abortion clinic today. What if, by Patriot Act guidelines, right to life orgs were reclassified as
terrorist organizations. Unauthorized-by-the-courts phone tapping and e-mail parsing and fundamentalist church embeds, anyone?