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Gospel Messenjah
August 9th, 2007, 09:52 PM
:scratch John 17:6-10 I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world , yours they were and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. 7Now they know that everything you have given me is from you. 8 For I have given them the words you gave me, and they have recieved them and have come to know the truth that I came for you; and they have believed that you sent sent me. 9 I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. 10All mine are yours and yours is mine and I am glorified in them.

graceforme
August 9th, 2007, 10:44 PM
:scratch John 17:6-10 I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world , yours they were and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. 7Now they know that everything you have given me is from you. 8 For I have given them the words you gave me, and they have recieved them and have come to know the truth that I came for you; and they have believed that you sent sent me. 9 I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. 10All mine are yours and yours is mine and I am glorified in them.


I checked several different sources to get information on this passage. My Dake Bible explains this passage this way:

"unto the men which thou gavest me" - the men not only included the 12, but also the 70 disciples (I'm not entirely sure who they were), and many others that had come to believe on Him. Note 10 things of these men:

1. I have manifested Thy name and glory to them (v. 6, 22, 23)
2. They are Thine (v.6,9)
3. They have received and kept Thy Word (v. 6, 8
4. They know God and believe that I came from God (v. 7, 8, 25)
5. The world hates them (v. 14)
6. They are not of the world even as I am not (v.14-16)
7. I am glorified in them (v. 10)
8. Thou gavest them Me (7 times - v. 2,6,9,11,12,24)
9. I have given them eternal life (v. 2-3)
10. Those that Thous gavest Me Ihave kept, and non of them is lost, except
the son of perdition (Judas) (v. 12)


7 things prayed for believers

1. To be kept from evil (v. 11, 15)
2. Unity of all believers, as God and Christ are one (v. 11, 21-23)
3. Joy of Christ fulfilled in all believers (v. 13)
4. Sanctification or separation of believers to the full work of God, as He
had been set apart for this work (v. 17-19)
5. World recognition of God's love to believers (v. 24)
6. Reunion with Christ (v. 24)
7. To see His glory (v. 24)

I think in order to understand the verses you mentioned, we need to read the entire passage, which is the whole chapter.

I hope this helps some.