Avalon on Benny Hinn?

[Beth O]

First time I ever laid eyes on Hinn my skin crawled!




That was my same exact experience the first time I laid eyes on Hinn.

It was until later that I understood why.

[KaiafromBergen]

Among many other things Benny Hinn is a necromancer!

[SummerSailing81]

Well, why don't you guys just find someone you personally know who is blind, cripple, and/or terminally sick and bring him to one of his shows? He invites everyone, right? Find out for yourself.
He's not going to the hospital where a WHOLE medical staff can confirm the veracity of his claims.
I've been to one of his shows; nice song & dance number. Also his emoting isn't half bad.
If this guy were for real I think there'd noticeably be a lot less infirm people.

Make no mistake, God still heals people & only Aaron's sons has the right to tithes from the tribes of Jacob.


Years ago when I was still involved with the WOF I noticed on one of Benny's programs that there was a severely handicapped little girl sitting in the front row in a wheelchair. When it was time for people to come up on stage to be healed and give testimonies I noticed that Benny didn't bring this girl up on stage. In my mind I thought about what Jesus - the real healer - would have done in this situation. There's no doubt in my mind that He would have gone down to her, laid His hands on her, and she would have gotten up out of that chair and walked. Benny and crew completely ignored this child in favor of people who's sicknesses and diseases weren't visible to the eye. This was one of the things - among many - that just didn't sit well in my spirit and helped me get out of the WOF nonsense. I now know the reason Benny didn't have this girl up on stage and laying hands on her is because he's a fraud and a false preacher.

[Warrior Prophet]

Don't be too harsh on Avalon and their connection to BH. They could be simply naive about what Mr. Hinn actually teaches. There are many in the evangelical world who are simply not discerning about what is being taught by many Word of Faith teachers. Many artists are also charismatic in their view of the Holy Spirit and see Word of Faith as simply a spin off of Pentecostalism. Now it could be that they actually support the teachings of Mr. Hinn. I don't think it would hurt to e-mail them with your concerns about them associating with such a man and see how they react.

[NovaStorm]

Who cares what he does, I'm pretty sure even the Devil can do things that seem to us as miracles, it's what he says that is truly scary. I had a GF that liked him a lot, I got dumped of course after I refused to play that game. I told her some of the anti-biblical things he has said, and she would refer to back when he apologized for teaching those things and how he was on the right road now... though still saying/teaching the same things. He is WoF, right? WoF missing the l ...

Oh, as for someone mentioning Hal, Hal left TBN because they told him to stop covering stories on Muslims. They kept censoring out his shows and running other shows in their place. He left and got air on Daystar which runs his show every Sunday night and I think Monday morning. The nice think about my satellite box is that I can delete channels from the listing, so I don't know if TBN caved in and got his show back on.... As I recall now, he has been booted once or twice from TBN in the past, but back then it was over speaking out against the WoF movement, but TBN would get tons of protest mail when they would remove him and wind up bringing him back on because of it.

[J4E]

Avalon played a concert at my church in an intimate setting of maybe 300 people. I was a stage runner for them. They never been to our church and Jody McBrayer of Avalon sported a not so Christian attitude at first as he though he was "above" our small little church. It wasn't until he discovered that many in the audience were foster children that the church members purchased concert ticket for them to go. Once he took the time to see the outreach that we do in our community, he instantly became humbled and even apologized the church staff for being such a butt-head. The group took time afterwards to sign autographs and take photos with everyone.

Pic of my pastor (Bill) with Avalon and our church director on the end there.

CLICK TO SEE (http://www.tlcchurch.com/Photos/Avalon%20&%20Family-095.jpg)

[Jesse]

I have always loved the Christian music group Avalon. I've listened to them for years. Last night I was channel surfing and saw them onstage at a Benny Hinn crusade. They did just sing a song and sit down, either. They were on stage the whole time right in the middle of things. I love their music. I'm so disappointed they are involved in this.

There are some sincere truth seeking people who are involved in things like this. Whether Avalon is seeking the truth or just seeking worldly fame, I honestly don't know. But my parents, for example, used to go to an extreme Charismatic church back in the late 80's and early 90's. But since they were seeking the truth, God had eventually opened their eyes to the problems with the church that they were going to.

For those of you who are not aware of what Benny Hinn is all about, here is a link to a load of info about that: http://www.erwm.com/BennyHinn.htm

I also recommend a video expose called The Signs and Wonders Movement Exposed (http://www.thebereancall.org/node/4874), which is currently on sale on that site. Benny Hinn is not the main focus of this expose, but it does expose a lot about him. It shows very clearly that he has publicly lied many times, and it also exposes a great deal about the signs and wonders movement.

There was one time when my dad e-mailed a prayer request to Benny Hinn's ministry. He requested a prayer "for Benny Hinn to get saved and stop deceiving people". The response to the prayer request started out by saying, "I was so touched by your prayer".:ohno

[dixie_chick]

It sounds like what happened to your parents is basically what happened to me, except that I grew up baptist and fell into the church I in the process of leaving much later, when I was in college. What impressed me about the charismatic church I got mixed up in was that the people genuinely seemed to love God. At the church I grew up in, it was all about money and politics and power and position, and etc., etc., etc. As they say, it was basically a glorified country club. Ironically, I think in retrospect they had sounder doctrine than the church I'm in now. I was just so impressed by church B because there was such a mix of different people, no jockeying for power or position, just people who seemed to sincerely love God. I have since learned that you can sincerely seem to love God and sincerely have very bad theology. For one thing, I have heard people in church B talk about non-charismatics as being non-Spirit-filled, not that they are not saved, just that they aren't filled, whatever that means. My Bible says everyone who believes is filled with the Spirit. Another thing that finally got to me was the insistence that everyone who is saved should speak in tongues, to the point that people are faking it just to fit in. There are other things as well. Those are just a few. It bothers me that when I go to church I feel like I've been to a pep rally, not to church. The pastor relies to much on "words from God" from people in the congregation and that kind of thing. Not a lot of Bible study going on.

[Warrior Prophet]

It sounds like what happened to your parents is basically what happened to me, except that I grew up baptist and fell into the church I in the process of leaving much later, when I was in college. What impressed me about the charismatic church I got mixed up in was that the people genuinely seemed to love God. At the church I grew up in, it was all about money and politics and power and position, and etc., etc., etc. As they say, it was basically a glorified country club. Ironically, I think in retrospect they had sounder doctrine than the church I'm in now. I was just so impressed by church B because there was such a mix of different people, no jockeying for power or position, just people who seemed to sincerely love God. I have since learned that you can sincerely seem to love God and sincerely have very bad theology. For one thing, I have heard people in church B talk about non-charismatics as being non-Spirit-filled, not that they are not saved, just that they aren't filled, whatever that means. My Bible says everyone who believes is filled with the Spirit. Another thing that finally got to me was the insistence that everyone who is saved should speak in tongues, to the point that people are faking it just to fit in. There are other things as well. Those are just a few. It bothers me that when I go to church I feel like I've been to a pep rally, not to church. The pastor relies to much on "words from God" from people in the congregation and that kind of thing. Not a lot of Bible study going on.


That is one of the more dangerous doctrines of certain Charismatic/Word of Faith churches. They put their supposedly inspire messages from God on par with the Word of God and they get it all wrong. It wouldn't even be such a big deal if they allowed them but judged them by the Word. Like most of the times you allow even a little false teaching in, it then spreads like wildfire.

[dixie_chick]

That is one of the more dangerous doctrines of certain Charismatic/Word of Faith churches. They put their supposedly inspire messages from God on par with the Word of God and they get it all wrong. It wouldn't even be such a big deal if they allowed them but judged them by the Word. Like most of the times you allow even a little false teaching in, it then spreads like wildfire.

Yep. Sadly I spent five years or more in this church because I liked the emotional, experience oriented services, but now I'm at a point where I've suddenly realized for five years I ain't learned one thing about the Bible or God that I didn't know when I started there. In fact if anything I'm more confused than I've ever been.

The thing is is that in the first church I mentioned where there was know real love of God but rather of position and power I at least for whatever reason felt like I learned a lot. That was partly due to some individual SS teachers I had who genuinely cared about the kids more than arguing about politics, etc., and just the fact that I WAS a kid probably made me more sensitive and receptive to what truth I did hear.