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BlessedinHim
June 15th, 2007, 07:55 AM
1 Corinthians 14:38-40 (King James Version)
38But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

39Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

40Let all things be done decently and in order.

I personally do not speak in tongues. I have been in services that do. Some orderly, some not orderly. When the speaker of tongues has an interpreter, and I do not have a clue how they know or how the other congregants know, but in my experience, the speaker has a voice of command and demanding respect, I dont know how else to put it, and the congregants are very quiet, as if in awe, waiting for what the Lord has to say. I dont remember where I came up with this, whether in the scripture or in the teachings of the church, but that the interpretation would glorify God and be inline with scripture if it were a true manifestation.

kenod
June 15th, 2007, 08:07 AM
Yes, I believe it is very important that an interpretation be judged by Scripture. When it is disorderly, I don't think it is necessarily wrong. To me it is like a child who is just learning. At times I believe the gift of wisdom has been used through me, but other times it might just be my own idea. None of us are a Paul or a Peter ... we all learn to crawl before we walk. If we are too afraid to try to use a gift the Lord may be trying to impart, we might never learn!

TheWorkman
June 15th, 2007, 02:28 PM
I Cor 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men,
but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit
he speaketh mysteries.


The King James rendering of the Greek word for tongues (glossolalia) as "unknown" tongues is misleading. Many readers do not understand that italicized word unknown is not in the original language, and most modern translations correctly omit it.


"Mysteries" in the Bible are not unintelligible. Biblical "mystery" is something once concealed but now revealed.
In fact, Paul speaks of a "mystery" as that of which "I have already written" (Eph. 3:3) He wrote it in greek, a known language; "mystery" here is not an unknown, unintelligible, or inexpressible private language.

Hootmon
June 15th, 2007, 02:46 PM
The King James rendering of the Greek word for tongues (glossolalia) as "unknown" tongues is misleading. Many readers do not understand that italicized word unknown is not in the original language, and most modern translations correctly omit it.


"Mysteries" in the Bible are not unintelligible. Biblical "mystery" is something once concealed but now revealed.
In fact, Paul speaks of a "mystery" as that of which "I have already written" (Eph. 3:3) He wrote it in greek, a known language; "mystery" here is not an unknown, unintelligible, or inexpressible private language.Good post.

A lot of the modern traditions regarding Tongues is based on a modern English understanding and not an ancient Greek one.

TheWorkman
June 15th, 2007, 08:05 PM
Before it is used. Romans 8:26 "groans that words cannot expressed", Paul is not speaking about tongues, a gift nowhere mentioned in the passage or anywhere in Romans. Furthermore, these "groans" "cannot be uttered," while the private tongues are something that people do indeed utter, so they cannot be the same. Also, since the "groans" are expressed by the Spirit, there is no need for the believer to put them into words. Norman Geisler

kenod
June 15th, 2007, 09:35 PM
The King James rendering of the Greek word for tongues (glossolalia) as "unknown" tongues is misleading. Many readers do not understand that italicized word unknown is not in the original language, and most modern translations correctly omit it.


"Mysteries" in the Bible are not unintelligible. Biblical "mystery" is something once concealed but now revealed.
In fact, Paul speaks of a "mystery" as that of which "I have already written" (Eph. 3:3) He wrote it in greek, a known language; "mystery" here is not an unknown, unintelligible, or inexpressible private language.


Yes, I have heard all the arguments on both sides, and I take them seriously. What I am saying is that there is a huge move of God going on among Pentecostal/charismatic Christians world wide ... God is proving your interpretation wrong.

TheWorkman
June 16th, 2007, 08:31 AM
Yes, I have heard all the arguments on both sides, and I take them seriously. What I am saying is that there is a huge move of God going on among Pentecostal/charismatic Christians world wide ... God is proving your interpretation wrong.


There is a huge move, I agree. Whether or not it is of God is another thing. Massive amounts of people doing something doesn't prove anything.

kenod
June 18th, 2007, 02:55 AM
There is a huge move, I agree. Whether or not it is of God is another thing. Massive amounts of people doing something doesn't prove anything.

Of course you are right. What I am saying is something is happening, so why not look a bit deeper. When I look closer I see most of these people love and serve and worship Jesus Christ. They believe His Word, the Holy Bible, and they try to follow His commandments. I see good fruit in their lives. Granted there are some who seem to go overboard, majoring on certain aspects, but generally speaking I see genuine Christians.

If indeed this is a move of God, then we need to be alert for whatever else God may choose to reveal to His Church ... the Bible always being our absolute. The Bible is infallible; our understanding is not!

Mitsy
June 18th, 2007, 04:28 AM
If indeed this is a move of God, then we need to be alert for whatever else God may choose to reveal to His Church ... the Bible always being our absolute. The Bible is infallible; our understanding is not!

Kenod my apologies I have only shown the last two lies of your post. I just wanted to say Yes 'I Agree' to that highlighted in Bold.

I'm praying for God to help me in understanding His word more & more as I walk with Him & read His Word:-


PHP 1:9 And this is my prayer: that your love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight, 10 so that you may be able to discern what is best and may be pure and blameless until the day of Christ, 11 filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ--to the glory and praise of God.

Yarev
June 18th, 2007, 01:05 PM
This is more a question and poll I suppose, but do you believe in the spiritual gifts? I mean the things like miraculous healing and prophesy still occurring today?