The Star of Remphan

[Candi]

I know... I say "stuff" too much...:lol2

[Walker]

The Star of David appears in Jewish texts beginning around 1000 or so, but there is no biblical tradition for it. It became prominent as the symbol for the Zionist movement. Biblical scholars acknowledge that is has no theological significance.

I thought the five pointed star was the Seal of Solomon and the 6 pointed star was the Seal of David? The two were not supposed to be the same thing.

Almost all modern symbols have pagan roots. The hexagram has been said to represent the union of male and female, the union of sky and earth and the union of fire and water.

[Candi]

I think it's best to do with away with symbols....
We have the seal of the Holy Spirit and don't need any others..

[jeshurun]

Their flag is a tallit/prayer shawl with a curious emblem.Quote:
link to source: ISRAELI MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS (http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/history/modern%20history/israel%20at%2050/the%20flag%20and%20the%20emblem)The Star of David

Unlike the menora (candelabrum), the Lion of Judah, the shofar (ram's horn) and the lulav (palm frond), the Star of David was never a uniquely Jewish symbol. The standard name for the geometric shape is a hexagram or six-pointed star, composed of two interlocking equilateral triangles. In a classic article, Gershom Sholem shed light on the history of the "Star of David" and its connection with Judaism and tried to answer the question whether it was appropriate to include it in the national flag or state emblem.*

One of the first Jewish uses of the Star of David was as part of a colophon, the special emblem printed on the title page of a book. Sometimes the printer included his family name in the colophon; or chose an illustration that alluded to his name, ancestry, or the local prince, or a symbol of success and blessing. The idea was to differentiate this printer's books from those of his competitors and to embellish the title page. Colophons are as old as the printing press itself.

According to Sholem, the motive for the widespread use of the Star of David was a wish to imitate Christianity. During the Emancipation, Jews needed a symbol of Judaism parallel to the cross, the universal symbol of Christianity. In particular, they wanted something to adorn the walls of the modern Jewish house of worship that would be symbolic like the cross. This is why the Star of David became prominent in the nineteenth century and why it was later used on ritual objects and in synagogues and eventually reached Poland and Russia. The pursuit of imitation, in Sholem's opinion, led to the dissemination of an emblem that was not really Jewish and conveyed no Jewish message. In his opinion, it was also the reason why the Star of David satisfied Zionism: it was a symbol which had already attained wide circulation among the Jewish communities but at the same time evoked no clear-cut religious associations. The Star of David became the emblem of Zionist Jews everywhere. Non-Jews regarded it as representing not only the Zionist current in Judaism, but Jewry as a whole.

* G. Sholem, "The Curious History of the Six Pointed Star; How the 'Magen David' Became the Jewish Symbol," Commentary, 8 (1949) pp. 243-351.Quote:

Star of David as part of a sixteenth- century colophon from Prague
http://www.mfa.gov.il/NR/rdonlyres/12FD9AE8-E5FB-4FB9-99E3-BA1B03816E07/0/MFAJ05k10.jpg

In light of this information, there just might be some truth to the allegations about its egyptian origin where they were enslaved for centuries and where at least one of Solomon's wives came from, pharaoh's daughter.Act 7:42-43 RV But God turned, and gave them up to serve the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, Did ye offer unto me slain beasts and sacrifices Forty years in the wilderness, O house of Israel? (43) And ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, And the star of the god Rephan, The figures which ye made to worship them: And I will carry you away beyond Babylon. Amo 5:25-27 RV Did ye bring unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? (26) Yea, ye have borne Siccuth your king and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. (27) Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is the God of hosts. 1Kin 11:4-8 RV For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father. (5) For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. (6) And Solomon did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. (7) Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh the abomination of Moab, in the mount that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech the abomination of the children of Ammon. (8) And so did he for all his strange wives, which burnt incense and sacrificed unto their gods. Notice the similarity to the egyptian flower of life (http://www.asounddesign.com/egyptian_flower_of_life.jpg)

[Candi]

Hmm... the golden calf story comes to mind...

[Lexie]

Their flag is a tallit/prayer shawl with a curious emblem.Quote:
link to source: ISRAELI MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS (http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/history/modern%20history/israel%20at%2050/the%20flag%20and%20the%20emblem)Notice the similarity to the egyptian flower of life (http://www.asounddesign.com/egyptian_flower_of_life.jpg)

Maybe some of the Jew's, have been affraid of the Rune crosses, they have been met up with recently. I cannot believe this man is promoted on Christian sites?????????????

Jew watch is love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ygBxvE9IwE




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God's Mercy on Israel
I ask, then, has God rejected his people, the Jews? Of course not! Remember that I myself am a Jew, a descendant of Abraham and a member of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 No, God has not rejected his own people, whom he chose from the very beginning. Do you remember what the Scriptures say about this? Elijah the prophet complained to God about the people of Israel and said, 3 "Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars. I alone am left, and now they are trying to kill me, too." [fn1]
4 And do you remember God's reply? He said, "You are not the only one left. I have seven thousand others who have never bowed down to Baal!" [fn2]
5 It is the same today, for not all the Jews have turned away from God. A few [fn3] are being saved as a result of God's kindness in choosing them. 6 And if they are saved by God's kindness, then it is not by their good works. For in that case, God's wonderful kindness would not be what it really is-free and undeserved.
7 So this is the situation: Most of the Jews have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have-the ones God has chosen-but the rest were made unresponsive. 8 As the Scriptures say,

"God has put them into a deep sleep.
To this very day he has shut their eyes so they do not see,
and closed their ears so they do not hear." [fn4]

9 David spoke of this same thing when he said,

"Let their bountiful table become a snare,
a trap that makes them think all is well.
Let their blessings cause them to stumble.
10 Let their eyes go blind so they cannot see,
and let their backs grow weaker and weaker."

11 Did God's people stumble and fall beyond recovery? Of course not! His purpose was to make his salvation available to the Gentiles, and then the Jews would be jealous and want it for themselves. 12 Now if the Gentiles were enriched because the Jews turned down God's offer of salvation, think how much greater a blessing the world will share when the Jews finally accept it.
13 I am saying all of this especially for you Gentiles. God has appointed me as the apostle to the Gentiles. I lay great stress on this, 14 for I want to find a way to make the Jews want what you Gentiles have, and in that way I might save some of them. 15 For since the Jews' rejection meant that God offered salvation to the rest of the world, how much more wonderful their acceptance will be. It will be life for those who were dead! 16 And since Abraham and the other patriarchs were holy, their children will also be holy. [fn6] For if the roots of the tree are holy, the branches will be, too.17 But some of these branches from Abraham's tree, some of the Jews, have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, were grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in God's rich nourishment of his special olive tree. 18 But you must be careful not to brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. Remember, you are just a branch, not the root.19 "Well," you may say, "those branches were broken off to make room for me." 20 Yes, but remember-those branches, the Jews, were broken off because they didn't believe God, and you are there because you do believe. Don't think highly of yourself, but fear what could happen. 21 For if God did not spare the branches he put there in the first place, he won't spare you either.22 Notice how God is both kind and severe. He is severe to those who disobeyed, but kind to you as you continue to trust in his kindness. But if you stop trusting, you also will be cut off. 23 And if the Jews turn from their unbelief, God will graft them back into the tree again. He has the power to do it.24 For if God was willing to take you who were, by nature, branches from a wild olive tree and graft you into his own good tree-a very unusual thing to do-he will be far more eager to graft the Jews back into the tree where they belong.

God's Mercy Is for Everyone
25 I want you to understand this mystery, dear brothers and sisters, [fn7] so that you will not feel proud and start bragging. Some of the Jews have hard hearts, but this will last only until the complete number of Gentiles comes to Christ. 26 And so all Israel will be saved. Do you remember what the prophets said about this?

"A Deliverer will come from Jerusalem, [fn8]
and he will turn Israel [fn9] from all ungodliness.
27
And then I will keep my covenant with them
and take away their sins." [fn10]

28 Many of the Jews are now enemies of the Good News. But this has been to your benefit, for God has given his gifts to you Gentiles. Yet the Jews are still his chosen people because of his promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 29 For God's gifts and his call can never be withdrawn. 30 Once, you Gentiles were rebels against God, but when the Jews refused his mercy, God was merciful to you instead. 31 And now, in the same way, the Jews are the rebels, and God's mercy has come to you. But someday they, [fn11] too, will share in God's mercy. 32 For God has imprisoned all people in their own disobedience so he could have mercy on everyone.33 Oh, what a wonderful God we have! How great are his riches and wisdom and knowledge! How impossible it is for us to understand his decisions and his methods! 34 For who can know what the Lord is thinking? Who knows enough to be his counselor? [fn12] 35 And who could ever give him so much that he would have to pay it back? 36 For everything comes from him; everything exists by his power and is intended for his glory. To him be glory evermore. Amen.