Global warming debate 'irrational': scientists

[felixthecat]

All along, the so called global warming problem has just been something the green people have used to get their agenda on the top of the list. the hole in the ozone layer didnt do enough to get people riled, so they got to use whatever they can to sway political views and cause unrest and panic so they can take away our rights.

POLITICS:gaah

Yup!

And make money off of you as they scare you into submission!

[WarGamer]

It's a religion. And a false/pagan one at that.

[janrich456]

Global warming, solar warming, cycles, end-times; all the same in my book. Don't need money to fix, just Salvation and the return of the King.

:candle



This is the globial warming they need to worry about.

2 Peter 3:7
7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
NKJV

[Justsomeguy]

This brings me to another point, in order to understand the changing climate, it's necessary to look at records going back many hundreds of thousands and even millions of years through glaciology and geology respectively. Most Christians are against at least the radical elements of environmentalism, quoting Scripture saying God created man to have dominion over the earth. Fine, I certainly agree with that. Unfortunately, some of these Christians believe that the earth is only 6000 years old and there was a global flood about 1500 years later, for which there is no evidence. Consequently, they are undermining their own arguments against radical environmentalism by rejecting the science that could back up their claims in the name of a particular dogmatic interpretation of the Bible, and a general anti-science stance. How can people put forward coherent arguments if they reject a good fraction of the science that could back up their arguments?

Perhaps if many Scientist would quit trying to pass off their assumed values for unkowable variables as if they were confirmed facts, then I might be more inclined to listen to their arguments. Instead, they continue to build evidence based on scientifically unprovable assumptions. There are many scientist that believe in a young Earth...Do these scientist have an anti-science stance?

[HisAlways]

My employer is currently pushing "Al Gore's" global warming theories. It is really starting to make me ill.

The whole week last week was focused on meetings on going "green", a new international logo (a globe with "green" on it). Gore was even mentioned in a meeting.

Has really made me lose my "enthusiasm" for my job. I just keep telling myself "it's just a means of income the Lord has blessed me with".

[saved by Grace]

Global warming schmobal warming.I certainly agree that its really about the tree huggers getting their agenda pushed foward.remember when the Refrigerant R12 was phased out years ago because it was suspected it was destroying the ozone layer.they came out with R134A thats no where as efficient as R12 and more leak prone and it did not solve the problem.the ozone layer is still being depleted.personally I think God is setting up the earth and its atmosphere for his judgements during the tribulation.imho

[HisAlways]

Global warming schmobal warming.I certainly agree that its really about the tree huggers getting their agenda pushed foward.remember when the Refrigerant R12 was phased out years ago because it was suspected it was destroying the ozone layer.they came out with R134A thats no where as efficient as R12 and more leak prone and it did not solve the problem.the ozone layer is still being depleted.personally I think God is setting up the earth and its atmosphere for his judgements during the tribulation.imho

Exactly.....that was more of their speech last week, when we went to R134A. Now, that is supposed to be phased out of our products, I believe, due to "global problems".

I agree with you....if there IS global warming, I'm not convinced it is caused my man. I'm convinced it is part of God's plan, and a global governmental plan to line pockets with our tax money.

[cryo]

Environmentalists without faith are scared about any of these changes, as they don't have an eternal life in heaven to wait for. I do my part by trying to recycle, don't litter, etc., but I literally got yelled at by a colleague two weeks ago for throwing away a can, on accident, when the recycling bin was right there. I laughed about it, but I wanted to roll my eyes. Christians take a much different view, as we know these global changes are signs of the end. I personally am nauseated by the coverage global warming receives, especially here in Chicago, where we had an eight inch snow storm in April. It's headed toward 90 today, though! Uh oh! Must be global warming!

[csharpdotcom]

Perhaps if many Scientist would quit trying to pass off their assumed values for unkowable variables as if they were confirmed facts, then I might be more inclined to listen to their arguments. Instead, they continue to build evidence based on scientifically unprovable assumptions. There are many scientist that believe in a young Earth...Do these scientist have an anti-science stance?

The scientists who claim the the world is 6000 years old, use a particular interpretation of the Bible. Moreover, in organisations such as Answers in Genesis, they have to sign an oath proclaiming, amonsgt other things, that they will uphold a particular interpretation of the Bible when doing science. This thus disqualifies them from doing valid science, as the business of doing science is not to show the Bible is correct or is not correct, it's just to find out what nature is doing.

The evidence that the world is much older than 6000 years old is so overwhelming, that by ignoring this, they are not doing science. Thus, for example, the pronouncements of Jerry Falwell on global warming are completely meaningless, as he believes the world is 6000 years old.

[Jonathan Blair]

The scientists who claim the the world is 6000 years old, use a particular interpretation of the Bible. Moreover, in organisations such as Answers in Genesis, they have to sign an oath proclaiming, amonsgt other things, that they will uphold a particular interpretation of the Bible when doing science. This thus disqualifies them from doing valid science, as the business of doing science is not to show the Bible is correct or is not correct, it's just to find out what nature is doing.

Is this any different than the scientist who takes money from a organization with an atheist agenda, then publishes a paper supporting the theories of the atheist organization? Loss of funding due to disagreeing with the funding organization's point of view is a very great possibility for any scientist. The business of science is profits.

The evidence that the world is much older than 6000 years old is so overwhelming, that by ignoring this, they are not doing science. Thus, for example, the pronouncements of Jerry Falwell on global warming are completely meaningless, as he believes the world is 6000 years old.

I believe that the Bible is the truth. I don't varnish that truth with talk of "profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: which some professing have erred concerning the faith." (I Timothy vi:20b,21a, KJV). I can count, and the Bible tells us how many years it was from Adam to Noah, from Noah to Abraham, from Abraham to the Exodus, and from the Exodus to the Temple. I believe that the Author of the Bible is not a man that He should lie. So why should I believe mankind's "science" which is daily influenced by greed and obstinate pride over the facts as presented in the Bible? The same Bible that tells me that God created the heavens and the earth in six days and that there has been only 6000 years from that creation until now is the same Bible that tells me that Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, died for my sins and rose again, offering me and all of humanity eternal life. If you have a problem with one fact from the Bible, do you have a problem with all the other facts as stated in the Bible? If so, you've got bigger problems than whether or not the earth is 6000 or 6,000,000,000 years old.
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." (Hebrews xi:1, KJV).