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Compatriot G
August 14th, 2007, 02:47 PM
I never listened to Creflo much. Any "preacher" with the last name of Dollar, scares me.

empreme
August 14th, 2007, 06:43 PM
I'm hoping this is out of context and he is just going through questions of Christ's divinity in the Gospel to which he later refutes Sadly, I'm probably incorrect.

hvnaw8s
August 14th, 2007, 07:39 PM
I agree with what has been said here thus far.

Question: Don't you guys think that pride is what goes before the 'fall'? I mean with all of us?

The only possible explanation I can muster as to why those who seemed solid would then turn would be pride.

Perhaps the others (can't speak for Creflo, heard him for 2 sec at my bil, and walked out the room!) somehow got their focus off of God. Got caught up in all the 'millions' hearing by radio/tv/internet, and then the enemy just slithered on in with "You are so good at preaching."/"People love to hear you talk"/"Look at all the 'stuff' you can acquire at the 'stuff mkt' - keep it up, you're great" - do you know what I'm trying to say?

It is a sobering warning in scripture that 'to deceive it were possible even the elect'...which is why we must remain humble before the Lord. Really aware that nothing good lies in us (flesh) apart from His Lordship in our lives. Recently, it occurred to me that if we are sealed by Him, we are protected by Him, because the Father gave us to Christ and no man can pluck us out of His Hand.

Shalom in Christ
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Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the traditions of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Col 2:8



I was going to say exactly this same thing. Yes, I believe it is pride and like you as I was thinking about it, I too couldn't really see any other reason for why they would turn from preaching truth. These pastors today through television and radio have achieved celebrity status. And are teaching that we are not to question God's so called "annointed". When I listen to these men I personally do not see any humility.

Revelation 3 comes to mind...

Rev 3:14 "To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, says this:

Rev 3:15 'I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot.

Rev 3:16 'So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth.

Rev 3:17 'Because you say, "I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing," and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked,

Brokenjar
August 14th, 2007, 08:14 PM
It's sad. I hear a lot of "new" teachings like this going on. I hate it when church leaders fall away and teach lies.