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Seated
October 13th, 2009, 09:55 AM
But what does the "fullness of the Gentiles" actually mean? Does that mean that there must be a certain number saved before the rapture happens? :hmmm
And isnt this the times of the Gentiles that we are living in now?
Don't confuse the "spiritual stones" which comprise the Church with the eventual number of gentiles Saved before Jesus Returns and Saves Israel. It's right there in the context:
Rom 11:25 So that you will not be conceited, brothers, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery: a partial hardening has come to Israel until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written: The Liberator will come from Zion; He will turn away godlessness from Jacob.
I agree that the Church is a building and that it's building will be comprised of a finite number of both Jews and gentiles. But the Salvation of the gentiles extends beyond the rapture/completion of the Church right up to the time when Israel's partial hardening is removed and they are saved. That happens when Jesus returns to the earth.
The "times of the gentiles" refers to nothing spiritual, including Salvation. It refers to the gentile world power structure which will continue to oppress Israel right up to the time when Jesus returns to Save them.
Caveman
October 13th, 2009, 11:40 AM
that is what I've always believed Jesus's Girl,
fulness = 2nd coming (partI) rapture
times = 2nd coming (partII)
Luke 21: 24-27
24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
ChristIsKing2008
October 13th, 2009, 09:55 PM
Some great posts there :)
stephen
October 14th, 2009, 12:25 AM
i beleave the times of the gentile has to do with the rapture-
and i beleave this also has to do with the rapture.
luke 13:35
behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, ye shall not see ME, until the time come when ye shall say, {blessed is HE that cometh in the name of the LORD.}
all the prophets and apostals words lead to the LORDS coming.
in respect to everyone seems to me that this day lots of GODS children are saying in manny diferent ways[BLESSED IS HE that come in the name of the LORD.]
LUKE 13:5
I tell you nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
lol-stephen
Jesus's Girl
October 15th, 2009, 06:39 PM
Family,
How would you rate the Birth Pangs of today? RR has a link that is called The Rapture Index: The Gauge of the End Times. It lists everything at 165 and says "Fasten Your Seatbelts". So, when we look at the Birth Pangs, ie: earthquakes in the past 3 weeks, storms, famines in many huge parts of the world, the great sin of abortion and homosexuality, etc. What do you think, Family? Are we there? Do you think we are about to "have this baby" or in other words "Raptured"?
mom4Yehoshua
October 15th, 2009, 06:48 PM
YUP! :hug :yeah :rapture :candle....We are rearing to get off this forsaken planet, I believe. :yeah
peaceseeker
October 15th, 2009, 06:50 PM
Only the Father knows the time. We can speculate or wrack our brains and spend all of our time wondering and trying to contemplate but even Jesus does not know the hour or the time.
Just stay ready and keep your eyes and ears peeled.
WantToGoHome
October 15th, 2009, 06:52 PM
My head is just spinning. I thought it wouldn't be like this until we were in the tribulation. Frankly, at this point, I can't even comprehend how bad it will be during the tribulation. Sometimes I think maybe we're in the tribulation and we don't realize it yet.
I'm so confused. It seems to me like people will be so used to the birth pangs by the time the trib hits that they won't think anything about it. So, how will the events of the tribulation bring people to God?
I'm so confused....
Little Bug
October 15th, 2009, 06:53 PM
I, too, feel we are near. I want to say "very near", but only God knows. So much has happened since :dohbama took office. But the other signs have really had me "looking up" (earthquakes, evil being called good and good being called evil, more UFO sightings in Russia and all....). I believe our Lord is at the door. The trumpets are being lifted.... Pleeeeeeease Lord! Come quickly!:pray
WantToGoHome
October 15th, 2009, 06:54 PM
I, too, feel we are near. I want to say "very near", but only God knows. So much has happened since :dohbama took office. But the other signs have really had me "looking up" (earthquakes, evil being called good and good being called evil, more UFO sightings in Russia and all....). I believe our Lord is at the door. The trumpets are being lifted.... Pleeeeeeease Lord! Come quickly!:pray
I love the new spelling -- :dohbama
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