Once a Sheep Always a Sheep, or Salvation Deficit Disorder?

[acceptedintheBeloved]

Agreed! :thumb

[tunce]

Yes, you can not lose your salvation period. Now God will deal with you while you are alive and backsliding by putting you into trails that otherwise you would not have to go through (IMHO).

[ZeldaCA]

If they still believe, and still accept the gift of salvation -- yes.

If they've come to doubt that He is truly who He says He is, and isn't sure anymore if the gift he gave is real or not -- probably not.

But The Lord knows what's in their hearts for sure.

[cat]

I hope the thought of the Lord having to snatch me out of an undesirable place will keep me out of those kind of places.:thumb:thinking

[JesusInMe]

I agree with you all and thanks for the replies. There are many of my christian friends who believe differently. There was a time when I was not walking faithfully with Lord and I knew in my heart that I was saved, but a part of me felt that it was now up to me to KEEP my salvation, if you will. I'm probably wording that poorly, but I'm sure you all understand what I am saying.

[Rondaben]

I had an interesting bible study on this recently. It was based upon the first few chapters of Revelation when Christ is speaking about the 7 churches.

People's thoughts on that range that those churches correspond to periods of time in the church age (I disagree on that), or that they represent different types of churches (Possibly IMO). I was looking at it from the perspective of types believers--after all the church is the group of people, not the building or organization.

If we look at the format of all of the passages about the church, they are broken into 3 parts:


The qualification and things we are doing right
What we are doing wrong in God's sight
What the consequence is if we don't do what he tells us to do to remedy the situation


The only church that doesn't fit that description is Philadelphia--the "True" church. Notice also that it is the only church that Jesus promises a "door" that no man can close--a way of escape.

All of the other churches are given a trial or tribulation that they are encouraged to overcome.

I don't know the ramifications of this bible study....it is still a work in progress I guess. I do, however, still adhere to a pre-tribulational rapture of the church. I guess this just brings up the question of "what is the church".

[ByFaithIFly]

I agree with you all and thanks for the replies. There are many of my christian friends who believe differently. There was a time when I was not walking faithfully with Lord and I knew in my heart that I was saved, but a part of me felt that it was now up to me to KEEP my salvation, if you will. I'm probably wording that poorly, but I'm sure you all understand what I am saying.

Yes;They will be raptured.They just won't receive the crown of Rightesous
which will be given to all thoes that look for His appearing.:wave

[WordyTrees]

Yes, you can not lose your salvation period. Now God will deal with you while you are alive and backsliding by putting you into trails that otherwise you would not have to go through (IMHO).


LOL< BEEN THERE! Never taking a detour AGAIN. You think potholes are bad? Try getting rerouted!

[Hootmon]

...a part of me felt that it was now up to me to KEEP my salvation,...What could you possibly to to 'keep' it? No one deserves getting it in the first place.

[tunce]

LOL< BEEN THERE! Never taking a detour AGAIN. You think potholes are bad? Try getting rerouted!

:wave

Yes it's not fun! I have had my issues too, mostly dumb teenage stuff with the wrong crowd. But looking back on it boy what trials did I incur.