Once a Sheep Always a Sheep, or Salvation Deficit Disorder?

[Buzzardhut]

I do take the Scriptures as a whole. And I do believe in the infallibility, along with the equally inspired aspects of the Word of God. I am justing saying that I don't draw from Paul as much as other people, I'm not saying that Paul isn't as equally as inspired as the Gospels. But since we are called to be disciples of Christ, to me this means that the Gospels are the absolute guideline for the Christian because they are the closest accounts we have towards what Jesus was actually like.
The Holy Spirit wrote the gospels and Paul's books, no personal opinions were inserted.
All the books of scripture are equally inspired

[KaiafromBergen]

And that I was explaining in those verse I quoted.

syn·on·y·mous
1: having the character of a synonym ; also : alike in meaning or significance
2: having the same connotations, implications, or reference

[iGospel 5]

The Holy Spirit wrote the gospels and Paul's books, no personal opinions were inserted.
All the books of scripture are equally inspired

All of that is true. But there are some books that we use more than others. Like how often do you hear a sermon on Jude, or Philemon. Even though all scripture is equally inspired, we as humans are fallible and must choose to emphasize some books and not others.


syn·on·y·mous
1: having the character of a synonym ; also : alike in meaning or significance
2: having the same connotations, implications, or reference


Yes, and that is clearly seen in those verses I quoted. I know what synonymous means.

[SonOfThunder]

there is power in the blood
wonder working power

Amen to that, Brother !!

[Gabby]

I would say I'm not violating those rules, for I too believe that we are saved only through the redeeming blood of Christ. I just happen to nuance that statement a bit more.


I hope you do believe our salvation comes ONLY through the redeeming blood...but, with all due respect, your initial posts said something quite different than that:


I am a very Christocentric Christian, meaning that I pay attention much more to the gospels than to Paul's letters, which means that for me the gospels, and espcially the Sermon on the Mount are what saves us and atones our sin. The cross, then, is the summation of this atonement which Christ already spelled out in his ministry. So the cross, the redeeming blood is important as a baptism... but the heartfelt core of Jesus' message is really in the gospels, not Paul, and especially in the Sermon on the Mount.

You yourself equate the SOTM with the cross.

Just pointing out that you've somewhat deviated from your original words.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'the redeeming blood is important as a baptism...'

[iGospel 5]

I hope you do believe our salvation comes ONLY through the redeeming blood...but, with all due respect, your initial posts said something quite different than that.



You yourself equate the SOTM with the cross.

Just pointing out that you've somewhat deviated from your original words.

No, no. I guess I'm not explaining myself very well. Redemption is through the blood of Jesus Christ, but the power of redemption comes from Jesus' ministry.

[Buzzardhut]

All of that is true. But there are some books that we use more than others. Like how often do you hear a sermon on Jude, or Philemon. Even though all scripture is equally inspired, we as humans are fallible and must choose to emphasize some books and not others.
All scripture is profitable for doctrine
All scripture should be read equally, accepted equally, and used regularly.

2 Timothy 3:16-17

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

pasa graphe - every Scripture (writing, passage)

theopneustos - God-breathed

kai ophelimos - and (also) profitable (useful)

pros didaskalian - for teaching (with a view toward that which is taught)

pros elegmon - for conviction (to rebuke for the purpose of conviction of sin)

pros epanorthosin - for correction (to set up straight, restoring to an upright state, setting right)

pros paideian - for instruction (training, discipline)

en dikaiosune - in righteousness (the character or quality of being right or just)

The Scriptures are breathed by God and useful for:

1. teaching

2. conviction

3. correction

4. training and discipline in righteousness

So that everyone of God may be "filled or furnished completely" for every good work.

2 Timothy 2:15

"Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth."

"rightly dividing" and "correctly handles" are translations of a Greek word that means "cutting straight"

[Gabby]

No, no. I guess I'm not explaining myself very well. Redemption is through the blood of Jesus Christ, but the power of redemption comes from Jesus' ministry.

Ok.

Well...again, we're gonna part ways. I believe the power of redemption works through the Holy Spirit.

[iGospel 5]

All scripture is profitable for doctrine
All scripture should be read equally, accepted equally, and used regularly.

That is ideal. But, as humans, impossible I think.

[KaiafromBergen]

I am a very Christocentric Christian, meaning that I pay attention much more to the gospels than to Paul's letters, which means that for me the gospels, and espcially the Sermon on the Mount are what saves us and atones our sin. The cross, then, is the summation of this atonement which Christ already spelled out in his ministry. So the cross, the redeeming blood is important as a baptism

So, you do not believe what you wrote earlier?