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Buzzardhut
March 2nd, 2009, 01:56 PM
Uh, I kind of find that hard to swallow. Nobody's attributing the works of Christ to Satan in a case like this.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is rejecting the Holy Spirit's call to salvation, not getting saved is the only unpardonable sin.
Not fully trusting in the blood of Jesus is not getting saved.

Kliska
March 2nd, 2009, 02:04 PM
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is rejecting the Holy Spirit's call to salvation, not getting saved is the only unpardonable sin.
Not fully trusting in the blood of Jesus is not getting saved.

:nod

Eternally
March 2nd, 2009, 03:41 PM
But the Galatians could be forgiven. They had not committed the unpardonable sin. Paul would not have gone to such lengths to convince them in his letter if they had been a lost cause.


This to me means blaspheme and not being saved:

Gal 1:8 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gal&c=1&t=NASB&q=galatians#comm/8)But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/k9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/study/tsk/tsk.cfm?b=Gal&c=1&v=9&t=NASB)http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/c9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gal&c=1&t=NASB&q=galatians#conc/9)http://www.blueletterbible.org/gifs/l9.gif (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gal&c=1&t=NASB&q=galatians#comm/9)
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Gal 1:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gal&c=1&t=NASB&q=galatians#comm/9)As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

Daughter
March 2nd, 2009, 06:26 PM
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is rejecting the Holy Spirit's call to salvation, not getting saved is the only unpardonable sin.
Not fully trusting in the blood of Jesus is not getting saved.That's right.

And I KNOW, that I know that I know....The Holy Spirit inside of you is unmistakeable...you just...KNOW. He is INSIDE OF YOU! If you haven't realized that at some point....

It's so hard to put into words. I felt the HS working inside of me all of my life and one day..it just hit me...I DO believe in pre-destination.

jeffebornagain
March 2nd, 2009, 09:07 PM
I know I'm saved but I still have that ability to screw up and sin again. I also understand I'm in my natural body, and until I'm in heaven with my Lord things will be tough here on Earth. I think what helps me is digging into the Word and keeping up steady communication with God. I'm finding myself in prayer ALOT lately, and I feel closer to God than ever before. When I do fall, for whatever reason, I know God is always there to pick me up, dust me off, and put me back on the narrow path. Thing is, the closer I get to God, the closer I want to be to him, and the things I did that made me fall in the first place just dont seem so appealing anymore.

I guess my point with all that is just dive into the Word, and spend more time with God. Set your eyes on him, and everything else is just small potatoes.

:pray

SnoDog
March 3rd, 2009, 05:11 PM
its still hard to accept that im forgiven over and over again haha..but i guess thats just how amazing our God is

Thats amazing grace. :thumb

God tells us to forgive our brother 70 times 7, shouldn't we expect the same from him?

WalkTheLine
March 3rd, 2009, 06:40 PM
I have noticed a trend in that sometimes we as Christians confuse our standing before God with our state.

My standing before God is that I am justified by faith. ( Just as if I never sinned)

My sate is one of being sanctified. I am growing through the process of maturing in Christ, being transformed from glory to glory one day at a time. The Holy Spirit reminds me to walk according to His words. Conviction is not the same thing as condemnation. Look for the progress in your life as you walk with Him.

One day (very soon I trust) God will complete the process of my change and I will be glorified with Him because of the work He has done.

As far as the 'Lord I did it again' a pastor I know says God typically replies with 'did what again'. He forgets our sins. He literally chooses not to bring them to memory because God knows everything.

Remember God cleanses from all unrighteousness. Past present and even the future ones I don't know I am going to do. I am to walk with Him.

Look for the Labor of Love, Work of Faith and Steadfastness in the hope of Christ in your life.

Not Perfect, But Forgiven
March 4th, 2009, 03:53 PM
Here is my problem..

I am saved but i feel like a hypocrite all day every day.

I still ask God for forgiveness of my sins, but i know im going to do them again..i dont like that i know that, but i know i wont just quit cold turkey

how does god feel about this? i dont want to go back on my word to god or anything ya know..i dont know how to feel about this..

i understand everyone sins, but i dont feel like i should ask forgiveness knowing it will more than likely just happen again..

help?

Repentance is turning from yor ways. You and I know it's one of the ingredients to salvation. You have to get tired of the guilt you feel after you sin. That is the Holy Spirit trying to tell you that what you are doing isn't good. Once you get sickof the gut wrenching guilt, you'll quit with reckless abandon. You are able to quit, but perhaps not quit ewilling. Part of you wants to keep doing what you are feeling so guilty about. You have to get sick and tired of sinning against God who loves you and your own body. You really truly can do it. I believe in you, and God loves you very much.

chris0808
March 5th, 2009, 08:43 PM
Here is my problem..

I am saved but i feel like a hypocrite all day every day.

I still ask God for forgiveness of my sins, but i know im going to do them again..i dont like that i know that, but i know i wont just quit cold turkey

how does god feel about this? i dont want to go back on my word to god or anything ya know..i dont know how to feel about this..

i understand everyone sins, but i dont feel like i should ask forgiveness knowing it will more than likely just happen again..

help?

I know how you feel...Remember it is a good thing that you are aware that you are sinning and that you are in turmoil because you are sinning against God and he is making you aware of it. You are being called to repentance by God, just keep calling out to him and ask the Lord to grant you true repentance from your sins. If you keep asking he will answer you. If you weren't saved by God's grace through Jesus Christ, you would be living in sin and rationalizing with yourself to justify a sinful lifestyle. Surrender yourself to God's will and he will break the chains of evil that bind you. There is nothing you can do by yourself to be free from habitual sin, but God can do everything and set you free through Jesus Christ his son. You just need to place all of your cares on Jesus and trust in Jesus.

A good place to start would be to ask God where your heart is in your struggle to be free from habitual sin. Are you trying to glorify yourself by stopping or are you seeking to glorify God? Ask God's Holy Spirit that was planted in you when you accepted Jesus as Lord to guide you and immerse yourself in his living waters which comes from his Holy word. If you feel like you aren't being answered cry out to him and continue to cry out to him. He's always there.

Romans 8:38-39
38 And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[a] neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Chicken5516
March 12th, 2009, 07:14 PM
I'm not talking about my body. Sometimes if feel *I* am not worthy. Me as a person, as if the devil is telling me "you don't get it and you never will" ....

And the Devil is the father of lies.

John 8:44

"He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies".

Your flesh is not worthy, as others have stated above. However; if you are Born Again you are filled with the Holy Spirit. He has sealed you eternally. You are worthy spiritually to enter into the Throne of God because of the saving Blood of Jesus. The devil is trying to steal your joy of Salvation. Don't let him.