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yogi3939
February 23rd, 2010, 08:24 PM
I just watched a five part YOUTUBE presentation titled "Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry versus The Catholics". The debate topic was "do you think the catholic religion is a force for good in the world; do you agree or disagree.

I am not going to post the videos directly to the board nor am I going to post direct links. The reason being that I don't think some of the discussion material is totally appropriate for this site.

But what I came away with is that the Catholics, even when debating a gay appologist and an openly gay man, came away as big time losers. They were on the defensive a little when the first Catholic speaker, an African nation archbishop, said his piece. When the first "anti" speaker got through it was all downhill for the Catholic position from there.

They did an entry poll and the results were 678 for - 1102 against - and 346 undecided. After the debates and a Q&A session from the audience they took another poll and the results were 268 for - 1876 against - and 34 undecided. The defenders of the pro catholic position lost 410 supporters and gained 774 against their position leaving just 34 of the original 346 undecided still holding that position.

In other words the Catholics "got their butts whooped big time" by a couple of people we would not let on this board.

Just think how much worse they would have ended up if they had to really defend their faith against someone with real biblical knowledge.

Saved Alone by Jesus
February 24th, 2010, 07:48 PM
Hmm when I went to the site to view this on You-Tube it said it was removed by the user...gosh would have sure loved to have seen it.

ComeLordJesus
February 24th, 2010, 08:51 PM
Oh this hurts. I love Stephen Fry, and I'm sorry he's an atheist.

Christopher Hitchens is the reason for me having to love my enemy.

yogi3939
February 24th, 2010, 09:22 PM
Hmm when I went to the site to view this on You-Tube it said it was removed by the user...gosh would have sure loved to have seen it.


I found that it is gone too. But there is a good synopsis HERE (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewmcfbrown/100014133/intelligence-squared-debate-catholics-humiliated-by-christopher-hitchens-and-stephen-fry/) that does not contain the material from the video that I considered innapropriate for this site.

I wonder if the Catholic church had anything to do with the pulling of the video. They do still carry a lot of clout in some circles and they were hugely embarassed in the debate.

EDITED TO ADD

I did finally find that they are still available on YOUTUBE and will PM you a link.

HeIsEnough
February 25th, 2010, 08:27 AM
In other words the Catholics "got their butts whooped big time" by a couple of people we would not let on this board.


Abandon all hope, those who defend the earthly church, most especially the RCC. The Bride of Christ, those who labor in relative obscurity for the Lord, never need defended. There is a chance they have been on this board, who knows.

God Almighty stands alone, and then we have wicked men. That is how the scriptures show us the situation is. Atheists are easy to defeat on these terms, the sword of the Spirit knocks down every lofty argument. Men like that don't stand a chance against what the Lord says to them.