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Zerozx
May 20th, 2010, 04:13 PM
We should obviously take the following information with a grain of salt, but I'm posting it here anyway for you guys to look at... :hehee
site: http://www.quakeprediction.com/
from the site:
7.7 earthquake is possible in Southern California May 23-25
May 20 - May 25; Earthquake risk in California
VERY HIGH RISK; in Southern California May 20 & 24-25. A 7.2 to 8.2 (7.7) earthquake is possible in Southern California May 23-25. (Please see video forecast) ---> [there is a video in the link]
VERY HIGH RISK; in NE California May 23.
yogi3939
May 20th, 2010, 04:24 PM
We should obviously take the following information with a grain of salt, but I'm posting it here anyway for you guys to look at... :hehee
site: http://www.quakeprediction.com/
from the site:
As with all predictions, the proof is in the accuracy. He seems to have some kind of "system" based on temperatures but is it accurate or has he just been lucky enough times to be able to claim a small modicum of credibility?
Only time will tell.
Zerozx
May 20th, 2010, 04:25 PM
As with all predictions, the proof is in the accuracy. He seems to have some kind of "system" based on temperatures but is it accurate or has he just been lucky enough times to be able to claim a small modicum of credibility?
Only time will tell.
It's interesting that he correlated the heat with earthquake activity, because just yesterday I was on snopes and came across this article: http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/earthquake.asp
What do you think about heat and earthquakes, Yogi? Related or probably not?
savedatcamp
May 20th, 2010, 04:25 PM
My late Dad who was Geologist said there is no way to predict a earthquake, but I just don't know....:scratch
Best pray in advance for Ca. anyway....:pray
savedatcamp
cocopea9052
May 20th, 2010, 04:39 PM
We should obviously take the following information with a grain of salt, but I'm posting it here anyway for you guys to look at... :hehee
site: http://www.quakeprediction.com/
from the site:
:wave Zero
Yeah, I know about this guy....he is always wrong. He predicts the same info every week. One time years ago he came close, but he has not been credible since then. He has received some coverage on local news, but most folks think he is a quack.:lol2.
Zerozx
May 20th, 2010, 04:41 PM
:wave Zero
Yeah, I know about this guy....he is always wrong. He predicts the same info every week. One time years ago he came close, but he has not been credible since then. He has received some coverage on local news, but most folks think he is a quack.:lol2.
This is the first time I've heard about/seen him. :lol2 I think it's kind of silly, trying to predict earthquakes.
cocopea9052
May 20th, 2010, 04:54 PM
This is the first time I've heard about/seen him. :lol2 I think it's kind of silly, trying to predict earthquakes.
Yeah a quake quack......:hehee
Caver
May 20th, 2010, 05:22 PM
Yeah a quake quack......:hehee
Hi Sis. :hat Come on now, say it with some feeling. :lol2
Zerozx
May 20th, 2010, 05:25 PM
Hey Caver, hope you're feeling okay. :wave :hug
yogi3939
May 20th, 2010, 05:28 PM
It's interesting that he correlated the heat with earthquake activity, because just yesterday I was on snopes and came across this article: http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/earthquake.asp
What do you think about heat and earthquakes, Yogi? Related or probably not?
There are two things coming together in recent times that seem to say that it is at least possible to predict the risk level of earthquakes in some areas.
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The first is something you use on a regular basis if you have a bad burner igniter on your stove or if you use a charcoal grill. I am refering to the butane stick lighters that give off a spark when you pull the trigger and lights the butane flame at the tip. It works on the piezoelectric principle. There is a small piece of piezoelectric crystal in the unit and a striker to give it a hard smack when you pull the trigger. This causes it to generate a very short but intense electrical field across the crystal and by connecting the metal body to one side and the spark point to the other that voltage is used to generate a spark.
Be patient, I am getting to a point, but I just want to lay a little more groundwork first.
How intense is that spark at the tip of the lighter? It takes 30,000 volts to jump a spark 1" in dry air. The spark gap is usually no more than 1/8" sometimes a little less. So a little simple math tells us that if the gap is 1/8" we will need to have upward of 3750 volts, more actually to guarantee a good hot spark. In fact a goods working margine would be twice what is needed, so figure 7500 volts being generated by that puny little crystal and the tiny spring loaded hammer that hits it.
Now we pay off your patience with the POINT...
Much of the rock, especially quartz, in the earth is a piezoelectric mineral. If you apply a sudden strain to it just imagine how much electricity hundreds of thousands of tons of piezoelectric rocks can generate if that puny little crystal in my example above can generate 7500 volts.
Scientists are now coming to the conclusion that a phenomenon that used to be thought to be an old wives tale, earthlights, that occur shortly before a big quake are in fact real. Of course those old wives knew they were right in spite of what the eggheads tried to tell them. And now that several large quakes have been preceded by earthlights that have been captured on satelite images the scientists owe those old wives an appology.
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The second is the heat factor referenced in the video at the site you provided the link to. It is a well known fact that heat causes material to expand and cooling causes it to contract. So it would make sense that a prolonged and intense heat wave could heat the earth enough to increase the stress on the fault lines at least a little. If that fault were already almost at the breaking point heat expansion could concievably provide the small amount of additional stress that could be "the straw that broke the camels back".
And since rock is as close to incompressable as you can get it would not take a lot of expansion to cause a lot of additional stress in a system that already is being pushed about as far as it can be without rupturing.
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Now lets tie the two together. If you get a sudden increase in pressure on a piezoelectric material like rock and it can cause the earthlights seen from space and heat could just add to the stress, well just maybe they are on to something; but a lot more study is needed to make it useful as one of the geologists predicting tools.
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And finally...
If you go to the site in Zerozx' post you can get some info on the heat.
And if you go to YouTube and do a search on the term "earth lights" you will get a wealth of videos about the phenomenon.
As to the yoyo that Zerozx reffered to in his post, I think he is a legend in his own mind and has just enough knowledge to be dangerous. However I do think the relation between heating and piezoelectric electric fields needs much more study.
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