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Issachar
September 12th, 2007, 11:32 AM
The U.S. money supply is increasing - nearly five times faster than GDP growth. And now, fearing a Japan-style deflation, the Fed is likely to cut rates later this month.

The Chinese have one of the largest dollar piles in the world.

"Is China quietly dumping US Treasuries?" asks Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in the English press.

"A sharp drop in foreign holdings of US Treasury bonds over the last five weeks has raised concerns that China is quietly withdrawing its funds from the United States, leaving the dollar increasingly vulnerable."

The report continues:

"Data released by the New York Federal Reserve shows that foreign central banks have cut their stash of US Treasuries by $48bn since late July, with falls of $32bn in the last two weeks alone.

"'This comes as a big surprise and it is definitely worrying,' said Hans Redeker, currency chief at BNP Paribas. 'We won't know if China is behind this until the Treasury releases its TIC data in November, but what it does show is that world central banks are in a hurry to get out of the US. They don't seem to be switching into other currencies, so it is possible they are moving into gold instead. Gold is now gaining momentum across all currencies and has broken through resistance at 500 euros,' he said.

"Two top advisers to the Chinese government gave strong hints in August that Beijing should use its estimated $900bn holdings of US Treasuries and agency bonds as a 'bargaining chip', words taken as an implicit threat to trigger as US bond crash if provoked." http://www.dailyreckoning.com/

Issachar

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September 13th, 2007, 02:10 PM
"'This comes as a big surprise and it is definitely worrying,' said Hans Redeker, currency chief at BNP Paribas. 'We won't know if China is behind this until the Treasury releases its TIC data in November, but what it does show is that world central banks are in a hurry to get out of the US. They don't seem to be switching into other currencies, so it is possible they are moving into gold instead. Gold is now gaining momentum across all currencies and has broken through resistance at 500 euros,' he said.
Its only a big surprise if you are stupid enough to trust the Chinese with American security and our economy.

The Learner
September 13th, 2007, 02:27 PM
Its only a big surprise if you are stupid enough to trust the Chinese with American security and our economy.

Well then count on seeing some surprised faces in Washington DC, well not all of them of course, some of them had to know better but just didn't care.

PrinceSomeday
September 13th, 2007, 03:25 PM
:idunno Just wondering...if China is selling US T-Bills, who is buying them? (Somebody HAS to buy them, China is not just throwing them in the garbage can.)

JenGC
September 13th, 2007, 03:38 PM
If this is killing our dollar value, what should we do? I am thinking buying gold but is that an alternative or will inflation just go insane?

robinhoooood
September 13th, 2007, 10:23 PM
If this is killing our dollar value, what should we do? I am thinking buying gold but is that an alternative or will inflation just go insane?



Buying gold as a hedge against the inflation of our dollar is never a bad idea. Investing in things that can be considered true wealth... like precious metals or natural resources as opposed to "things"... is a good idea.

ddg1263
September 13th, 2007, 11:15 PM
The only thing about China dumping our dollar is that we are their biggest customer. I just don’t see them trashing the hand that feeds them just yet. The alternative markets are just not big enough yet. I see this melt down happening several years from now if congress does not get its act together and start building our base industry back in place. And btw, someone dumping that much cash is almost impossible to keep secret. The trading desks would be livid if they saw this happening and taking action according. When it comes to T-Bonds settlements, it is a small world.

JenGC
September 14th, 2007, 02:04 PM
Buying gold as a hedge against the inflation of our dollar is never a bad idea. Investing in things that can be considered true wealth... like precious metals or natural resources as opposed to "things"... is a good idea.

I started buying gold to help out anyone that is left behind and finds it in our house. I figured that you can always sell gold...at least at the beginning before the mark....to get some cash. I keep comparing it in my mind to the great depression. If someone had some gold then, would they be able to survive better than someone with paper money>?

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September 14th, 2007, 03:54 PM
:idunno Just wondering...if China is selling US T-Bills, who is buying them? (Somebody HAS to buy them, China is not just throwing them in the garbage can.)
It looks like they are just cashing them in for gold. I read that the US doesn't have much gold left. Don't really know the truth though.

4JesusLove
September 15th, 2007, 03:25 PM
It looks like they are just cashing them in for gold. I read that the US doesn't have much gold left. Don't really know the truth though.


I've heard rumors that Fort Knox doesn't have any gold. Remember rumors.

There is also a rumor that we are headed to a recession. My guess is depression. They have printed way too much paper with nothing to back it up with.