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Sing4Him
May 1st, 2007, 06:42 PM
The Dangers of Spiritual Formation and Spiritual Disciplines (http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue91.htm)

by Bob DeWaay:thumbup :thumbup



Practices called “spiritual disciplines” that are deemed necessary for “spiritual formation” have entered evangelicalism. Recent encounters with this teaching narrated to me by friends caused me to investigate these practices. The first experience involved my friend and co-worker Ryan Habbena who went back to seminary to finish his masters degree. Here is his experience in his own words:

I recently took a seminary course on the book of Luke. It was a summer intensive and was one of only two classes being offered at the time. About midway through the week, while the class was steeped in trying to discern the intent and significance of the book of Luke, we began to hear the echoes of mystic chanting coming through the walls. As it turned out, the other class being offered was parked right next to ours. The paper thin walls were carrying the choruses of a class exploring the life and teachings of Catholic mystic Henry Nouwen. We proceeded, trying to concentrate on studying the Scriptures while tuning out the chants that were carrying on next door. Perhaps what was more unsettling though is the class studying Nouwen was chock full, while there were plenty of empty seats next door for anyone wanting to learn about the inspired book of Luke.1
How can this be? A Baptist seminary was favorably studying the teachings of this Catholic mystic whose own biographers describe as having had emotional problems and homosexual inclinations.2 Soon after talking to Ryan, I met a lady who attends a Christian college. As part of her study program she was required to take a course on spiritual formation at her college. Spiritual formation in her class also concerned the study of Roman Catholic mystics and the search for techniques to help those who implement them feel closer to God. This study also explored “spiritual disciplines” which promised to make those who practiced them more Christ-like. After she finished the class she shared her textbooks with me. This article will focus on the claims of one of these text books, The Spirit of the Disciplines, by Dallas Willard.3 In our study we shall see that those promoting spiritual disciplines in courses of study called “spiritual formation” make claims that are unbiblical and dangerous.


Jesus’ “Yoke” as “Spiritual Disciplines”

Dallas Willard bases his entire spiritual disciplines book on his understanding of Matthew 11:29, 30, which says, “Take My yoke upon you, and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart; and you shall find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy, and My load is light.” Willard cites this passage at the beginning of a chapter entitled “The Secret of the Easy Yoke,”4 Willard says, “And in this truth lies the secret of the easy yoke: the secret involves living as he lived in the entirety of his life—adopting his overall life-style.”5 He also says, “We have to discover how to enter into his disciplines from where we stand today—and no doubt, how to extend and amplify them to suit our needy cases.”6 He claims that the “yoke” is to try to emulate Jesus’ lifestyle in every possible way.7 Willard interprets Jesus’ “yoke” as the practice of spiritual disciplines like solitude, silence, and simple living. He later adds voluntary banishment and others that we will discuss later.

Willard is very critical of traditional Protestant doctrine and practice, declaring it a massive failure.8 His remedy for this failure is to see the body and certain ascetic practices using the body as the means of change: “Looking back over our discussion to this point, we have connected the reality of the easy yoke with the practice of the spiritual disciplines. These in turn have led us to the body’s role in redemption.”9 He claims that we have been misguided by being concerned with the forgiveness of sins and “theories of the atonement.” He says, “Salvation as conceived today is far removed from what it was in the beginnings of Christianity and only by correcting it can God’s grace in salvation be returned to the concrete, embodied existence of our human personalities walking with Jesus in his easy yoke.”10 According to this thinking, the yoke of Jesus involves using the body in certain ways to accomplish changed lives:


http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue91.htm

Barachem
May 2nd, 2007, 06:54 AM
tl:dr
But i did glance over it.

And this line took my attention: “severe treatment of the body” cannot help us find freedom from sinfulness.

Not only does this condemn medieval RC practices, but all ascetism is deemed worthless for salvation.
And i immediately thought of buddhism, which is ascetism incarnate.
With this we have one more weapon with which to reject buddhism, because buddhism teaches salvation by suppression of desires, a very similar train of thought.

Sing4Him
May 2nd, 2007, 11:44 PM
Thanks for looking.

This is a VERY VERY excellent article.

This is defense against the basis of the new Contemplative JUNK that has come into churches.. and esp. the Southern Baptist Convention.

I keep praying for a strong leader in that convention to stand up against this mystic stuff! :pray

BlessedinHim
May 7th, 2007, 02:51 AM
I am Baptist, surely there must be a difference here between Baptist and Southern Baptist.

I know that the only thing I can even do at all, is just to confess my sins, believe He died for me, and accept His gift of salvation. To my knowledge, that is all we can do to be saved and go to heaven.

sewserious
May 7th, 2007, 09:10 AM
This is defense against the basis of the new Contemplative JUNK that has come into churches.. and esp. the Southern Baptist Convention.

I keep praying for a strong leader in that convention to stand up against this mystic stuff! :pray


Where do you get the idea that this college was a Southern Baptist school? If you read the footnotes in the article on the website itself, you will see that this allegedly happened at Bethel Theological Seminary in Arden Hill, MN, which is affiliated with the BAPTIST GENERAL CONVENTION, not the SBC!

Secondly, you have to remember that Baptist churches are autonamous even if they are in the SBC, so anything taught is the result of the pastor's teaching not necessiarly anything the SBC endorses.

As for strong leadership, Dr. Frank Page is a very strong leader. I have the privilage of living just a few blocks from the church he pastors, Taylors First Baptist, in Taylors, SC (just outside Greenville). He is a strong man spiritually. He will be, I believe, a very good leader for the SBC.

Sing4Him
May 7th, 2007, 12:40 PM
Where do you get the idea that this college was a Southern Baptist school? If you read the footnotes in the article on the website itself, you will see that this allegedly happened at Bethel Theological Seminary in Arden Hill, MN, which is affiliated with the BAPTIST GENERAL CONVENTION, not the SBC!

I made NO statement that this college was SBC! (BTW-my father went to Bethel in the 1940's WAY before it became apostate!This Swedish orgin college used to be solidly evangelical..)
Pastor Bob DeWaay, writer of this commentary wil tell you his alma mater is apostate. I have spoken with him numerous times.


Now-->>


Dr Frank Page endorses Dallas Willard, a proponent of Contemplative Spirituality. He also has praised Emergent.


Dr. Frank Page: The term “missional” means an intentional strategy or set of directives which would lead a person and/or group toward the accomplishment of a particular goal. To me, in our church and in our denomination, this indicates a mindset that constantly keeps the lost as a primary focus so that our mission work and ministry endeavors do not lose the vision for which they were created. Unfortunately, many bureaucracies get caught up in the institution and forget the missional objective.

I see many valuable contributions to the SBC coming from the Emergent Leaders Movement. I believe it is a positive thing to see a broader number of participants in our convention’s direction. I personally applaud this movement


Dr. Frank Page: I personally believe that methodology should always coincide with one’s theology

Apart from your weekly study of the Bible, what are the three most important books you have read recently which have influenced you in the ministry?

Dr. Frank Page:
Renovation of the Heart by Dallas Willard.




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sewserious
May 7th, 2007, 02:17 PM
Sing4Him,

I don't have time for a detailed answer right now and may not for a few days, as I am working overtime this week, but I will get back to you on your above statements.

And please, I politely ask that you not post things in big red letters? It really makes things look like the headlines of a sensationalistic newspaper and comes across as angry shouting, not calm discussion.

Sing4Him
May 7th, 2007, 07:54 PM
I'm going to have to post things in red. Those are the areas that need to be emphasized.

:doh No one is angry, nor shouting.There is nothing wrong with being bold for the faith. Paul was persecuted for this along with many other saints of the Bible.

I was part of the SBC until 4 months ago. I am grieved by what is going on. I too have investigated this area thoroughly. It breaks my heart.

I'm not looking for any response here. I pray the Lord would open your eyes to this. I say this in humility.

Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Jude 1:3

:)

Buzzardhut
May 7th, 2007, 08:12 PM
I'm going to have to post things in red. Those are the areas that need to be emphasized.

:doh No one is angry, nor shouting.There is nothing wrong with being bold for the faith. Paul was persecuted for this along with many other saints of the Bible.

I was part of the SBC until 4 months ago. I am grieved by what is going on. I too have investigated this area thoroughly. It breaks my heart.

I'm not looking for any response here. I pray the Lord would open your eyes to this. I say this in humility.

Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Jude 1:3

:)

Also, post the links to articles, and paste just a few paragraphs, or just the points you want emphasized.

Caneman
May 16th, 2007, 01:30 PM
I think this really depends on how you define mysticism, contemplation, and spiritual disciplines...

I never did get the meaning of the "spiritual formation" wording, if it means maturing in Christ then I don't see what is wrong with it...

Blessings,

Caneman