~ Children In Heaven ~ 2 Cor 1:3-4

[GreenEyedLady]

Hey you all.
I lost my Cheyenne Rose in June 2002. You can click on my link in my signature to find out her whole story.
I wanted to let everyone know that I started a message board www.parentsingrief.org
I would love for all of you to come and sign in to support those who have just recently lost a child. This is a board for anyone. Easy to navigate. Moderators are needed. Its not very active right now, but I will be in touch with Compasionate Friends and other groups to let them know about it.
GEL

[Forgiven Sinner]

Hi Jayna, and thanks, I am so glad to be here with you all. That is so amazing that your son felt homesick just before he went home too. God was definetly speaking to their sweet hearts and preparing them for the trip home. And he was even preparing our hearts too. I miss my son Mikel so much and there is not a day that goes by that I dont think about him and just want to squeeze him tight. I didn't get to say good-bye to him while he was here but I know God relayed all the messages to him and with lots of hugs and kisses too.

When I asked God to give me a glimpse of Heaven and what Mikel was experiencing he answered the prayer. I can't even describe it other than Love so powerful it took my breath away. I had goosebumps and warmth all at the same time and I knew at that moment that Jesus himself was holding me. I cried so hard and then I began to smile and laugh with joy. This is what my boy is experiencing, WOW!, THANK YOU FATHER.
Jayna, Jason is right there with Jesus and he is experiencing this love that we only get a glimpse of right now. But soon, hopefully very soon, we will all be experiencing too.

Our children aren't gone, just waiting for us at home. Praise God!

I love all my brothers and sister,
Kelly

[jayna]

This is said with love. I think the mods should move the topic (pregnant women, rapture) to a separate thread. I don't know why it was moved from the Anything Goes Board all of a sudden. ??????
This is a place for comfort and support.
I just feel uncomfortable with that here, among the other posts. JMO
Anyone else feeling this?


Me and you both..... thank you Lisa!!

[jayna]

So much tragedy this year. This will be the 7th fatal accident among young people in my area.
Please pray for this family. My daughter went to HS with these boys. These poor parents. My heart goes out to them. Lord Jesus give them strength. :pray:pray:pray

Article below.


Updated: 08/22/08





Twin teenage brothers from Cheektowaga were killed this morning when their car struck a tree in West Seneca, town police said.
The victims were identified as Thomas and Mark Sokolowski, 17, of Brentwood Drive of Cheektowaga.
At 11:41 a.m., police received a call about a serious accident on Main Street.
Officers found a 1993 Honda Civic had left the roadway and crashed into a tree in front of 527 Main Street.
It was not clear which brother was at the wheel.
The driver of the vehicle was taken to Mercy Hospital and the passenger was taken by Mercy Flight to Erie County Medical Center.
The accident was under investigation


I emailed you a response but I'll post here too!!

I still ask 'how could I have lost one of my twins?' I am terrified of losing the other one too. But this very thing has happened to these poor parents. It can happen. God Bless them.... how painful this is.

[jayna]

Just wanted to give you these :hug:hug:hug


Thank you friend!! :hug

[jayna]

Hi Jayna, and thanks, I am so glad to be here with you all. That is so amazing that your son felt homesick just before he went home too. God was definetly speaking to their sweet hearts and preparing them for the trip home. And he was even preparing our hearts too. I miss my son Mikel so much and there is not a day that goes by that I dont think about him and just want to squeeze him tight. I didn't get to say good-bye to him while he was here but I know God relayed all the messages to him and with lots of hugs and kisses too.

When I asked God to give me a glimpse of Heaven and what Mikel was experiencing he answered the prayer. I can't even describe it other than Love so powerful it took my breath away. I had goosebumps and warmth all at the same time and I knew at that moment that Jesus himself was holding me. I cried so hard and then I began to smile and laugh with joy. This is what my boy is experiencing, WOW!, THANK YOU FATHER.
Jayna, Jason is right there with Jesus and he is experiencing this love that we only get a glimpse of right now. But soon, hopefully very soon, we will all be experiencing too.

Our children aren't gone, just waiting for us at home. Praise God!

I love all my brothers and sister,
Kelly

Thank you very much Kelly!! You've made me feel better!! :hug

[jayna]

Hey you all.
I lost my Cheyenne Rose in June 2002. You can click on my link in my signature to find out her whole story.
I wanted to let everyone know that I started a message board www.parentsingrief.org
I would love for all of you to come and sign in to support those who have just recently lost a child. This is a board for anyone. Easy to navigate. Moderators are needed. Its not very active right now, but I will be in touch with Compasionate Friends and other groups to let them know about it.
GEL

What beautiful pics!!!
I'm going to check out your message board now. :)

[fishersofmen]

What is taught about about their free will of accepting Jesus being circumvented by an early death?
How do they get to heaven and get to stay without ever having their free will put into action???:scratch

[Frapster]

On the one hand there's the doctrine of the age of accountability. Before a certain age (determined by God) children are freely received into the kingdom of heaven by virtue of their youth and immature mind... and even to a certain extent their ignorance of sin and righteousness.

On the other hand there is the doctrine of election where God has chosen before the foundation of the earth whom he will save... the remnant so to speak. There are those who believe in the idea of the age of accountability and also believe in election/predestination. There are those, however, who believe that there is no age of accountability and such is the horror of sin and rebellion that its consequence, death, is no respecter of age. They argue that abortion is exponentially more heinous as a result of the eternal impact the choice has on the unborn soul.

My personal perspective is a bit of a cop-out because I simply don't know the answer. In another thread about Martin Luther and water baptism I left the question of his eternal condition in the hands of God. I have learned that where children, my siblings, my parents, good people, bad people and etc. are concerned I must leave this issue in the same capable hands.

My father was a minister for 50 years of his life before he passed away. I am confident because of the fruit of his life that I will see him again in eternity. A friend of mine (a pen pal) in Seattle recently passed away. By her own confession she rejected Christ until the end. But even to this moment I'm reluctant to say one way or the other what her eternal condition is simply because in the last 2 to 3 weeks of her life I did not hear from her - her cancer progressed so rapidly that she didn't have time to write. I know that I witnessed to her, expressed God's love and challenged her to re-examine her own thoughts about eternity.

Maybe God snatched her from being cast away - maybe he didn't. My point is that we can wrestle with these notions but the slippery slope is that we end up standing in judgement if we're not careful. And it's easy to do. But in the end the better position is to trust in God on these matters and focus on our own obedience while trusting in his sovereignty.

[Kamatu]

Frapster does a decent job on it. We aren't told precisely what happens to these. I've heard two versions that do fit: 1) those unable to choose are those that would have made the choice for God anyway (only the good die young) and 2) those unable to choose are those who would have rejected God anyway.

Here, you trust in God to make the right decision. Heh, that is kind of axiomatic, if God decides, then it has to be Right.