~ Children In Heaven ~ 2 Cor 1:3-4

[jayna]

Thank you Jayna :hug
Prayers for this man and his family. The not knowing has to be horrible. Let's pray for a miracle, in Jesus, precious, holy, name. Amen
:pray:pray:pray

Thank you. Yes the not knowing is horrible, I pray he's ok but things don't look good.

[Wings_Of_A_Dove]

:dance HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! Glad it was a good one.
I know I need to count my blessings that I have alot more than I do. Its hard though when our hearts ache so much for what we've lost.

I need to ask for prayer for the son of a friend of mine at church. He's 35 and been missing since Wed. His truck was found at a local Mobile station with his billfold and cell phone locked up in it. But noone has seen him. Him and his girlfriend are living with his mom. We have been praying for him for years because he has always had drug and alcohol problems. But he just recently had gotten him a job and things were looking up.
But I know you all will agree with me this doesn't look good.
She is distraught and my heart breaks for her. I know what she is likely about to have to face unless there is a miracle. :pray

oh jayna my heart breaks so much for this. he and his family is in my prayers. please keep us up-to-date on the details.

[DELIVERED]

Happy Birthday Faith!!!
I will also be praying for this man and his family.
Hugs and kisses to all of you.

[Forgiven Sinner]

Happy Belated Birthday sweet sis!!! "Hugs" Also joining in prayer for this young man and his family.

[jayna]

There is a big write-up and his picture on the front page of the paper today. Still no sign, its a mystery.

I have a question. She has been praying for his salvation for years and as far as I know he has not been saved. I have lots of books by people who have lost children as many of you do. I would like to give them to her if this turns out to be the worse case sernario. But as you know, in these books we are comforted because they always talk about seeing our children again.. there is hope. If he wasn't saved then these books wouldn't be comforting they would be heartrending. Know what I mean? What would you do? What can I do if this is the case. Knowing your child isn't in heaven (no matter the age) is just something I can't even fathom. How do you comfort if this is the case?
Need your input friends :hug :hug

[Faith&Hope]

There is a big write-up and his picture on the front page of the paper today. Still no sign, its a mystery.

I have a question. She has been praying for his salvation for years and as far as I know he has not been saved. I have lots of books by people who have lost children as many of you do. I would like to give them to her if this turns out to be the worse case sernario. But as you know, in these books we are comforted because they always talk about seeing our children again.. there is hope. If he wasn't saved then these books wouldn't be comforting they would be heartrending. Know what I mean? What would you do? What can I do if this is the case. Knowing your child isn't in heaven (no matter the age) is just something I can't even fathom. How do you comfort if this is the case?
Need your input friends :hug :hug




If your concerned your loved one isn't in Heaven, keep in mind that he may have become a Christian without you knowing it. Simply coming to God in faith, believing Christ died on the cross for you, saves you from sin. In most cases you don't know for sure what your loved one believed in his heart. God is mighty to save. He is a fair, just, wise, & loving, God. Man looketh at the outward appearance, God looketh at the heart.

Jesus heard this mothers prayers for her son. He may have cried out to Jesus with his mother never knowing. She needs HOPE right now. Encourage her. As you said she "doesn't know" that's where faith comes in. That's where trust comes in. She needs to believe right now that God heard her prayers.
Faith is being sure of what you hope for and certain of what you do not see.

I remember reading in a book (which will remaine nameless) you know the one) that he saw people in Heaven he didn't expect to see.. So while we may think we know it all, we don't, only God knows. I would encourage her and tell her to trust God with her son. (I personally didn't "hear" Mario say the sinners prayer but I'm trusting God that he reached for him at a point I didn't know. He knew of salvation, he reached for God in bootcamp when he was alone and depressed, he got baptised there. He took a step of faith. That's all God ask's. The thief on the cross didn't say the sinners prayer, he asked Jesus to remember him when he got to paradise. He had FAITH. He believed Jesus was the son of God, Jesus response "you will be with me in paradise". I think people get to caught up in the sinners prayer. God knows that person's HEART. A mustard sized seed of Faith. Jesus came to save, that no one should perish, not to condemn.We need to put the stones down and let God be the judge based on what he see's in the persons heart.
In his last moments he may have reached out to God with everything he had.
If he was depressed, he may very well have. When people hit rock bottom and have nothing left they REACH for something bigger then themselves, Jesus. This mom needs hope right now. Where would we all be if we didn't have that hope, that hope that comes from Jesus. I don't think I'd still be here to be honest, if I didn't think I was going to see Mario again. I couldn't go on but our strength to go on comes from above. His promises are true.
I am the resurrection and the life, he who believes in me shall live even though he dies.
I don't know what happened to this man but I believe God had his sovereign hand on him.
I hope this helped some.
Encourage, Encourage, she needs that right now. I would tell her the above and if the worse comes true give her those books to read. :pray:pray:pray

[Faith&Hope]

Happy Birthday Faith!!!
I will also be praying for this man and his family.
Hugs and kisses to all of you.



Thank you :hug
:pray:pray:pray

[Faith&Hope]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw8b4dJyVZU&feature=related

Be blessed.

[Faith&Hope]

There is a big write-up and his picture on the front page of the paper today. Still no sign, its a mystery.

I have a question. She has been praying for his salvation for years and as far as I know he has not been saved. I have lots of books by people who have lost children as many of you do. I would like to give them to her if this turns out to be the worse case sernario. But as you know, in these books we are comforted because they always talk about seeing our children again.. there is hope. If he wasn't saved then these books wouldn't be comforting they would be heartrending. Know what I mean? What would you do? What can I do if this is the case. Knowing your child isn't in heaven (no matter the age) is just something I can't even fathom. How do you comfort if this is the case?
Need your input friends :hug :hug


This was in my e-mail inbox today, August 25th, from GriefShare. Can you believe the timing!! Share this with your friend.

Day 206 - Only God Knows
You may have an extra heaviness of heart because you are concerned that your lost loved one did not know Christ and that you will not see him or her in heaven. Remember, no one on earth can know another person's heart or eternal destiny. Only God knows that.

Keep a proper perspective as you work through this.

Dr. Joseph Stowell says: "The most important thing to remember is that God is fair and just and wise and loving. Whatever He does with your loved one will be fair and wise and just and loving. God cannot deny Himself. You do not know what your loved one did in that last flickering moment of life in the quietness of his or her soul. Just give your worries to God and say, 'God, You are a fair, loving, wise, just God, and my loved one is Yours, and whatever You do with him or her, I know that someday I will praise You for the wisdom of that decision.'"

It is through the grace of God that people can receive eternal life. We, as fallen humans, cannot fully understand grace. Grace is an undeserved gift of life from God to man. How fortunate we are to have such a loving God.

"Just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" (Romans 5:21).

Loving God, I cannot know the eternal destiny of my loved one for sure, but I do praise You and thank you for Your gift of grace. You have compassion on me, no matter how undeserving I may be. Thank you for this reassurance. Amen.

[jayna]

If your concerned your loved one isn't in Heaven, keep in mind that he may have become a Christian without you knowing it. Simply coming to God in faith, believing Christ died on the cross for you, saves you from sin. In most cases you don't know for sure what your loved one believed in his heart. God is mighty to save. He is a fair, just, wise, & loving, God. Man looketh at the outward appearance, God looketh at the heart.

Jesus heard this mothers prayers for her son. He may have cried out to Jesus with his mother never knowing. She needs HOPE right now. Encourage her. As you said she "doesn't know" that's where faith comes in. That's where trust comes in. She needs to believe right now that God heard her prayers.
Faith is being sure of what you hope for and certain of what you do not see.

I remember reading in a book (which will remaine nameless) you know the one) that he saw people in Heaven he didn't expect to see.. So while we may think we know it all, we don't, only God knows. I would encourage her and tell her to trust God with her son. (I personally didn't "hear" Mario say the sinners prayer but I'm trusting God that he reached for him at a point I didn't know. He knew of salvation, he reached for God in bootcamp when he was alone and depressed, he got baptised there. He took a step of faith. That's all God ask's. The thief on the cross didn't say the sinners prayer, he asked Jesus to remember him when he got to paradise. He had FAITH. He believed Jesus was the son of God, Jesus response "you will be with me in paradise". I think people get to caught up in the sinners prayer. God knows that person's HEART. A mustard sized seed of Faith. Jesus came to save, that no one should perish, not to condemn.We need to put the stones down and let God be the judge based on what he see's in the persons heart.
In his last moments he may have reached out to God with everything he had.
If he was depressed, he may very well have. When people hit rock bottom and have nothing left they REACH for something bigger then themselves, Jesus. This mom needs hope right now. Where would we all be if we didn't have that hope, that hope that comes from Jesus. I don't think I'd still be here to be honest, if I didn't think I was going to see Mario again. I couldn't go on but our strength to go on comes from above. His promises are true.
I am the resurrection and the life, he who believes in me shall live even though he dies.
I don't know what happened to this man but I believe God had his sovereign hand on him.
I hope this helped some.
Encourage, Encourage, she needs that right now. I would tell her the above and if the worse comes true give her those books to read. :pray:pray:pray

Thank you once again, you always know just what to say. God certainly has you in the right place with your grief support group. If the devil ever tries to tell you differently you know otherwise.... you can just tell him where to go!!

I don't even know if he's gone I just know things don't look good. I was at a burger place today and there was a 'missing person' flier with his picture so I know they have them all over town.

She is such a sweet Godly lady and it breaks my heart to see her going through this.

I also know how even with those of us who know our children are in heaven how the devil tries to tell us different. I can just imagine what satan must be dishing out to her.

All your (God's) words I will definitely be using. I just needed some input because I don't want to say the wrong thing (which I'm good at!!! :hehee)
Thanks again for this, I printed it out. I also printed the grief share thing you sent me..... that was definitely a God thing.

Oh, and I do know the book!!! :tape

Love you!! :hug