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rescuedbyChrist
October 19th, 2009, 07:20 PM
There have been so many threads on this one topic. Bottom line...this is not addressed in God's Word. We simply do NOT know if all children will be raptured. It's all just speculation.
I tend to agree with Hal on this, but it's just speculation on my part too. LaHaye and Jenkins were just speculating too when they had children of unbelievers raptured in their Left Behind movie. It's just not Biblical to suggest, as a matter-of-fact, that all children will be raptured. We're relying on our own understanding here, which we're not supposed to do.
I also don't get how one can draw the conclusion that because a child is not raptured, he is going to Hell. What does one have to do with the other? I believe there's ample evidence in Scripture that children under the age of accountability go to heaven when they die. If a child dies in the Tribulation, he will go to heaven. There will be children born during the Tribulation; these children will have to endure the judgments. Why do we think that the child of unbelievers will be raptured, but the child born the day after or the week after the rapture to unbelievers is just stuck here on earth? I cannot reconcile in my mind all children being raptured. It doesn't make any sense to me. But...I am only speculating like everyone else is....
I believe as you. I also think it will be part of the delusion. Some "Christians" will be left behind. Not all children will disappear. It will be harder to explain. Just my thoughts.
kgreen20
October 19th, 2009, 07:46 PM
For the same reason, OneDayNearer, that children who have already died will escape the Tribulation. Is it fair that they should get the escape it when children conceived after the Rapture won't get to? For that matter, is it fair that we, the Church, are going to get to escape 7 years of God's wrath when those who have failed to accept His mercy won't be allowed to? In truth, though, we will get to escape enduring His wrath, and thankfully, so will every child who is below the age of being able to decide. The only ones who will have to endure it are those above that age who are left behnid, and those who are conceived and born afterward.
OneDayNearer
October 19th, 2009, 07:50 PM
For the same reason, OneDayNearer, that children who have already died will escape the Tribulation. Is it fair that they should get the escape it when children conceived after the Rapture won't get to? For that matter, is it fair that we, the Church, are going to get to escape 7 years of God's wrath when those who have failed to accept His mercy won't be allowed to? In truth, though, we will get to escape enduring His wrath, and thankfully, so will every child who is below the age of being able to decide. The only ones who will have to endure it are those above that age who are left behnid, and those who are conceived and born afterward.
What are you responding to? I didn't ask a question. :scratch
jayna
October 19th, 2009, 07:54 PM
This will not be forever.There is coming a day at the last trump,the Lord is going to descend out of the clouds and he is going to have our children with him!We will be changed and we will meet the Lord in the air!We will never suffer over their deaths,ever again.:hug
Revelation 21:4 He will wipe every TEAR from their eyes.There will be no more DEATH or MOURNING or CRYING or PAIN,for the old order of things has passed away.
Revelation 21:5 He who was seated on the throne said," I am making everything new!" Then he said," Write this down,for these words are Trustworthy and True."
Thank you Lucinda, I needed that!! :hug
kgreen20
October 19th, 2009, 08:00 PM
I'm going to copy and paste below something I said on another thread a few years ago, as it pertains to the subject of this thread. (With a correction, as I just noticed a typo I made on that other thread.)
I firmly believe that children who die before they're old enough to understand the concept of sin and the need for salvation go to Heaven, regardless of whether their parents are in a relationship with Jesus or not. Needless to say, they will be resurrected when God Raptures all living Christians and resurrects all dead Christians. No exceptions, even if their parents died lost.
Third, I believe that the requirements for taking part in the Rapture are the same as those for getting saved. If you're saved, born again, redeemed--take your pick!--you will be caught up. You might be caught in up a backslidden state, but you will be caught up.
Once more, here is where the age of accountability comes into play. Since I believe the requirements for getting saved (and then being resurrected, if you die) and the requirements for getting Raptured are one and the same, and since I believe that children who die before the age of accountability go to Heaven and will be resurrected when the time comes (even if their parents are lost), then I also believe that all living children below that age will be Raptured when the trumpet blows, whether their parents are saved or not. To say otherwise is to say that a child can ride to Heaven on his parents' coattails, and as I said above, that, the Bible says, simply cannot be done. Either he accepts Jesus and goes to Heaven, or he's too young to accept Jesus and therefore is counted innocent in God's eyes (and thus gets Raptured if alive, or resurrected if dead). Remember, the moment when the trumpet blows is a package deal, the end of a dispensation. It is the moment when all who died in Christ and all who lived in Christ, from Pentecost on, will be given new resurrection bodies. (Those who lived in the Old Testament era and the early New Testament era before the Church became reality, and the Tribulation believers who die, must wait till Jesus comes back before they can get theirs.) That certainly includes all children under the age of accountability who have lived in the Age of Grace from its beginning until now. God does not have 2 sets of requirements for participating in the resurrection of dead Christians and for participating in the Rapture of living ones--they are one and the same. For children too young to understand as well as for older believers, regardless of whether their parents know or knew Jesus or not.
Now--for those of you who believe that innocent young children whose parents are unsaved can expect to bear the blast and fury of God's wrath in the Tribulation instead of being counted innocent in God's eyes, go ahead! (And I know that some of you do believe that. Apparently, so does Hal, sad to say. :ohno)
Lucinda
October 19th, 2009, 08:26 PM
Thank you Lucinda, I needed that!! :hug
me too Jayna,all of us need it.Hard, not anything I'd ever want another person to bear but we do carry this and I thank the Lord for all of you:hug
Caveman
October 19th, 2009, 09:49 PM
Here's a verse I haven't seen posted regarding the Rapture and children,
whether it helps in the discussion or not, idunno :D
Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:
Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children,
and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say,
Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them:
wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?
Joel 2:15-17
Personally I hope ALL children will be raptured, as for pets... I choose to believe that I will once again enjoy the company of all 20 or so of my best buds in Heaven.
kgreen20
October 19th, 2009, 10:01 PM
I believe they will be, Caveman.
Lucinda
October 19th, 2009, 10:22 PM
I just don't understand:scratch
How can this even be an issue?
An innocent child will be Raptured.Do people really believe that Jesus would leave a child behind?According to the Bible,that is not the nature of Jesus.In fact he got on to the disciples and told them that the kingdom of Heaven was made up for little children.
kgreen20
October 19th, 2009, 10:55 PM
He sure did. I quoted that in an earlier reply on this thread.
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