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Resting
September 29th, 2007, 07:36 PM
You are right, Learner...absolutely. It's a long and terrible chain...
The problem with govt health care in America is that, if we had it, the quality of health care would go DOWN...just like in Canada...people in Canada come to the USA for doctors/healthcare because our docs are better AND they have a choice of which docs to go to (mostly)...
Let's hope someone gets it eventually...
PS I agree that all children (and adults for that matter) should get all healthcare that they need...But that is the parents' responsibility-NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S
End of Soapbox. Thanks.
Resting
September 29th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Precisely why Bush will veto this, I think.
Stinker
September 30th, 2007, 11:31 AM
You are right, Learner...absolutely. It's a long and terrible chain...
The problem with govt health care in America is that, if we had it, the quality of health care would go DOWN...just like in Canada...people in Canada come to the USA for doctors/healthcare because our docs are better AND they have a choice of which docs to go to (mostly)...
Let's hope someone gets it eventually...
PS I agree that all children (and adults for that matter) should get all healthcare that they need...But that is the parents' responsibility-NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S
End of Soapbox. Thanks.
NOT true, alot of Canadians retire in florida, you will not find them complaining about how the Canadian healthcare system was.
If you know someone from Canada ask them.
We are being fed a baloney sandwich from the neo-cons.
PS( when the COSTS of healthcare are becoming OUT OF REACH for MOST familys, thats when the GOV should step in and do something, the current system is NOT working.......and the average family is feeling it.......bye bye..neo-cons.
name1
September 30th, 2007, 07:11 PM
Cheering a healthcare system, that through capitalist capabilities has the potential for the greatest healing. While neglecting much of its society through lack of care, bankruptcy, unaffordability, or heinous bureaucracy is like cheering the rich super market that has everything... for only those whom can afford it.
Well, I say congrats to those who can, for everyone else.. bah... if you luv'd God.. obviously, you'd just work harder and be able to afford it :rolleyes (Just in case anyone didn't detect a bit of sarcasim)
The fact that those whom are extremely wealthy, or need the most critical care come to America is not necessarily an endorsement on the system as a whole.
Resting
October 1st, 2007, 07:34 PM
I have talked to people in Canada...That's where I got my information about the Canadian health system. Of course, it's not true of ALL Canadians.
I am not being FED info by neo-cons (whatever those are). I have a mind and I use it for myself.
I think that America's HEALTHCARE is the best in the world because we live in a capitalistic and FREE society. I have NO Problem with America's quality of healthcare.
I have a problem that it costs so much because it bases many, if not all, costs for services on what insurance covers (yes, I have had docs base the price for their services on is allowed by insurance).
I don't want to get into an argument here. It's not something I feel strongly about (except America being great because it's a capitalistic and free country)...
I really have nothing against Canada itself--I just think that socialized its healthcare is not best for the citizens. However, that's just an observation on my part...since I don't live there, I can't speak from experience on this matter...which is okay.
I'm open to learning new things. Thank you for your patience.
Rev. Kev
October 1st, 2007, 10:13 PM
NOT true, alot of Canadians retire in florida, you will not find them complaining about how the Canadian healthcare system was.
If you know someone from Canada ask them.
We are being fed a baloney sandwich from the neo-cons.
PS( when the COSTS of healthcare are becoming OUT OF REACH for MOST familys, thats when the GOV should step in and do something, the current system is NOT working.......and the average family is feeling it.......bye bye..neo-cons.
We live right next door to Canada. I talk to Canadians everyday. Most are coming over here for health care. If they liked there healthcare in Canada so much why are they spending there elderly years retiring in the good old USA? When they NEED more healthcare then ever before in there lives?
Stinker
October 1st, 2007, 10:48 PM
Cheering a healthcare system, that through capitalist capabilities has the potential for the greatest healing. While neglecting much of its society through lack of care, bankruptcy, unaffordability, or heinous bureaucracy is like cheering the rich super market that has everything... for only those whom can afford it.
Well, I say congrats to those who can, for everyone else.. bah... if you luv'd God.. obviously, you'd just work harder and be able to afford it :rolleyes (Just in case anyone didn't detect a bit of sarcasim)
The fact that those whom are extremely wealthy, or need the most critical care come to America is not necessarily an endorsement on the system as a whole.
upper right corner: Location Canada
Stinker
October 1st, 2007, 10:54 PM
I have talked to people in Canada...That's where I got my information about the Canadian health system. Of course, it's not true of ALL Canadians.
I am not being FED info by neo-cons (whatever those are). I have a mind and I use it for myself.
I think that America's HEALTHCARE is the best in the world because we live in a capitalistic and FREE society. I have NO Problem with America's quality of healthcare.
I have a problem that it costs so much because it bases many, if not all, costs for services on what insurance covers (yes, I have had docs base the price for their services on is allowed by insurance).
I don't want to get into an argument here. It's not something I feel strongly about (except America being great because it's a capitalistic and free country)...
I really have nothing against Canada itself--I just think that socialized its healthcare is not best for the citizens. However, that's just an observation on my part...since I don't live there, I can't speak from experience on this matter...which is okay.
I'm open to learning new things. Thank you for your patience.
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("I am not being FED info by neo-cons (whatever those are). I have a mind and I use it for myself.")
A neo-con is a Republican(or says they are) that promote BIG buisness,BIG gov.
Reagen used to call them the "loonies" there NOT conservitve and the average American is NOT there priority.
Money,Money, Money. Theres much more, but I will let you do the searchin(they are also globalists)
can4christ
October 1st, 2007, 11:40 PM
PS( when the COSTS of healthcare are becoming OUT OF REACH for MOST familys, thats when the GOV should step in and do something, the current system is NOT working.......and the average family is feeling it.......bye bye..neo-cons.[/QUOTE]
The government has no Constitutional authority to do anything about healthcare. The free market is the answer. The problem is there are too many people insured. When a third party pays the bulk of the tab, the insured will not take responsibility for keeping costs down. Think about it, anytime the government mandates insurance what happens to your rates? Did they go down for your auto after government made it mandatory? No!
My doctor told me if he were to take patients on Medicaid or Medicare the government then dictates the price of services, which is much higher than his rates (He would have to charge everyone this rate}. He charges $35.00 for a office visit, under Medicaid it would be about $95.00 We did not have insurance for 6 years,
It is not "most families" that do not have health insurance. Out of the 40-50 million that politicians claim "don't have access to healthcare" it's a scam! First, ALL 300 million people in this country have access to healthcare. They should say that the 40-50 million don't have insurance. Out of that figure, 10 million are NOT American citizens and about 15 million are only temporarily uninsured because of a job change. About 17 million can afford insurance, but choose not to (personal incomes greater than $50,000 yr.] because they are young and in good health. That leaves about 8 million Americans that are uninsured. I say those 8 million should get jobs at Wal-Mart, they have good coverage even for part-timers.
can4christ
October 1st, 2007, 11:44 PM
[QUOTE=Stinker;211387]************************************************** ********
A neo-con is a Republican(or says they are) that promote BIG buisness,BIG gov.
A "neo-con" is a person that used to be a Democrat that is now a Republican. Reagan was a neo-con.
neo= new
con= conservative
new conservative.
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