Messing with a Good Thing - Children’s Health Insurance

[HisAlways]

Here I am going to settle the problem of health insurance cost right here in this post. Ready? Here goes:

Limit the amount of monetary damages awarded in health care related law suits.

Then insurance premiums go down, and conversely health care cost go down and conversely everything becomes more affordable.

Of course that is too simple, and no one makes any money that way. The Senate and House are comprised of lawyers, literally 70% of our federal level politicians are practicing attorneys. So as a result legislation favoring trial lawyers is quite prevalent. Thus there will never be anything like what I suggested put into place. Hmmm....seems the president made the same statement a few years ago.

Anyone making 80K a year, imo, can afford health insurance. Don't always have to get the most expensive plans.......you do not know for sure you will need it.

I'm tired of paying for illegals' and their families. It's time America takes care of US citizens FIRST !!

[OnceWasLost]

Have you heard the demagogs in congress today? These people can't help themselves. They keep using the term "poor", when the new expansion goes way beyond poor people. As His pointed out the 400% above poverty would qualify.:panic

[OnceWasLost]

A "neo-con" is a person that used to be a Democrat that is now a Republican. Reagan was a neo-con.
neo= new
con= conservative
new conservative.

:thumb I love how neocon is seen as a pejorative term, yet I wear that tag proudly. Most people who use the term with such disdain, don't really know it's meaning, typical group think IMO

"A neoconservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality."
1983 - from Reflections of a NeoConservative, Basic Books, New York

[Issachar]

The government has no Constitutional authority to do anything about healthcare. The free market is the answer.

... My doctor told me if he were to take patients on Medicaid or Medicare the government then dictates the price of services, ... I'm wondering if you are as adamant about all the things the gov't does without constitutional authority? The list is very long.

While it is true that "the free market is the answer", there is no free market in healthcare. Insurance is not free market. Though voluntary as opposed to gov't taking the money, economically, it works the same way as socialism. Many pay in for the relatively few that need it. If there was no such thing as insurance, the healthcare system would have to charge whatever the market could/would bear. THAT is free enterprise. Do you think that corporations voluntarily started paying healthcare benefits for it's workers? Not. Without unions (which were started by socialists) and strikes, there would be hardly any, if any, companies paying a penney of one's health insurance.

You say your doctor told you that under gov't programs the gov't would dictate the prices of services. That is very true. But you know what? Insurance companies do that all day, every day too. Many folk have been stuck with medical bills because of the doctors fees vs. the insurance company dictating what the doctor or hospital should charge.

Any entity on this earth that is "of the world", will be corrupted. It doesn't matter if gov't runs it or (so called) private groups run it. Insurance companies have on staff, people who's job it is to go through the small print with a fine toothed comb looking for a loop hole that will let the company decline payment on a claim. Bankruptcys and foreclosures are significantly up due to medical costs of individuals. Those costs would never be where they are without insurance, whether from private or gov't. Both are anti-free enterprise.

Issachar

[Issachar]

If they liked there healthcare in Canada so much why are they spending there elderly years retiring in the good old USA? The warmer climate? I don't know too many, or any, that come to the US and live in Maine or North Dakota. :)

Issachar

[Issachar]

I say those 8 million should get jobs at Wal-Mart, they have good coverage even for part-timers. I highly doubt that WM has 8 million openings right now, but I'd be interested in hearing what you know about their healthcare benefits.

Issachar

[Bernardd]

I'm wondering if you are as adamant about all the things the gov't does without constitutional authority? The list is very long.

Perhaps you can identify what exactly is meant by "promoting the general welfare."

Do you think that corporations voluntarily started paying healthcare benefits for it's workers?
A great many have...a great many do.
In order to hire the best and brightest, corporations must be able to offer something better than the competition. If company "A" offers health insurance and company "B" doesn't (and both offer a potential employee the same wage), where do you think the employees will go?

Insurance is not free market. Though voluntary as opposed to gov't taking the money, economically, it works the same way as socialism. Many pay in for the relatively few that need it.
This is nothing like socialism. Insurance companies are in business to earn a profit. Furthermore, they have to compete with one another and therefore set their own rates. There is no competition in a "true" socialist system, nor is there any competition.

Insurance is not a free market? Try telling that to someone in the insurance business (specifically malpractice - medical)

By the way, relatively few need insurance? Virtually everybody I know has at one time or another had an injury or illness that had required medical care. Consider the elderly population (of which you and I will more than likely be part of one day). I get the impression more than just a few of them seek health care.

[The Learner]

:thumb I love how neocon is seen as a pejorative term, yet I wear that tag proudly. Most people who use the term with such disdain, don't really know it's meaning, typical group think IMO

A neocon is a democrat in conservative clothing, one cannot be big government and conservative at the same time. This is why the Republican party lost the house and senate, and why it will lose the presidency. Conservative Republicans wanted small government, and small spending but got huge bureaucracy and huge deficits.

[OnceWasLost]

A neocon is a democrat in conservative clothing, one cannot be big government and conservative at the same time. This is why the Republican party lost the house and senate, and why it will lose the presidency. Conservative Republicans wanted small government, and small spending but got huge bureaucracy and huge deficits.

There are plenty of so called "noncons" who don't fit that mold. If they are big government, they are not "cons" by definition. Who is a big government "neocon" in your view?

[The Learner]

There are plenty of so called "noncons" who don't fit that mold. If they are big government, they are not "cons" by definition. Who is a big government "neocon" in your view?

Without having to put too much thought into it. George W Bush :lol2. He only created the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States when he made the Department of Homeland Security.