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DUB
September 28th, 2007, 07:12 PM
Joe Barton
Member of Congress (TX-06)

Messing with a Good Thing SCHIP
Earlier this week, the House of Representatives took up what was supposed to be a reauthorization and reform of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). Instead, Democrat leadership rammed through what amounted to a giveaway to illegal immigrants and a move toward socialized medicine.

SCHIP has been a good program. It was designed for children whose parents earn too much to be on Medicaid, but not enough to afford private insurance. The program was originally intended to provide children living in homes up to twice the poverty level ($41,300 a year for a family of four), with government-designed health coverage. Unfortunately, this new bill expands eligibility to people it was never meant to cover. For starters, there’s no hard and fast income or asset ceiling in the latest proposal. It would allow New York to extend SCHIP to families making $82,600, and New Jersey to provide this coverage to families making $72,275. The new bill also continues to fund SCHIP for adults through 2012, taking away limited resources from needy kids.

While federal law prohibits illegal aliens from receiving taxpayer funded benefits, the Democrats’ SCHIP bill essentially sidesteps this regulation. This legislation will allow states to substantially weaken the current identification requirements and make it easier for illegal aliens to break the law and qualify for Medicaid and SCHIP. According to the Social Security Administration (SSA), the language in this bill could lead to the enrollment of illegal aliens fraudulently using another person’s identity, and individuals who have illegally overstayed a valid work permit, as well as other non-citizens temporarily in the country. This equates to millions of dollars in added taxpayer expense.

SCHIP is of vital importance to millions of American children, and Congress should act soon to ensure its future. However, we must do so in a responsible and efficient manner. I have introduced what I believe to be a responsible extension of the current SCHIP program, while closing loopholes that are taking money away from the children it was meant to serve. Unfortunately, Democrat leadership has decided to play politics with children’s healthcare. I find that to be completely unacceptable.

TomT
September 28th, 2007, 07:55 PM
Need link to article for sourcing - thanks

DUB
September 28th, 2007, 08:00 PM
Tom there is no link to this. It is an email and is not copy righted. Stright from Congressman Barton.
If what he says is true it sure puts a new light on this for me.
Maybe this one.
http://www.joebarton.house.gov/news.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=421

Resting
September 29th, 2007, 09:54 AM
I'm going out on a limb here: I am not in favor of this insurance bill and am glad Bush has said he will veto it.

In my opinion, it's just one step closer to government health care. I know there are times/situations when families need this type of insurance...but it shouldn't be expanded to so many people.

That said, I also believe we need a serious overhaul to the healthcare system in America. Many employers are beginning to not even offer health insurance because it is so expensive! It's so expensive because healthcare costs are directly linked to the health insurance system. It's like a great big circle...they kind of feed off each other-and it's not having a good effect.

When I was young(er), we would go to the doctor for an office visit. We would pay $40 or $50 for the visit EACH TIME...there was no insurance billing for these services...it was simply considered an out of pocket expense.

If there were lab fees, we would pay them...it was only when there were MAJOR MEDICAL expenses that we would begin to submit claims, etc...

In my town, if you are a family with children and do not have insurance, there is a clinic that you can take your children to (NOT the HEALTH DEPARTMENT)...the visit is $30 (the docs charge less because there is no one on staff for billing and because the fees are collected immediately)...Am not sure how prescriptions work-but I really think it's a better way to go about things...

frodo82801
September 29th, 2007, 12:21 PM
In my opinion, it's just one step closer to government health care. I know there are times/situations when families need this type of insurance...but it shouldn't be expanded to so many people.

That said, I also believe we need a serious overhaul to the healthcare system in America. Many employers are beginning to not even offer health insurance because it is so expensive! It's so expensive because healthcare costs are directly linked to the health insurance system. It's like a great big circle...they kind of feed off each other-and it's not having a good effect.

When I was young(er), we would go to the doctor for an office visit. We would pay $40 or $50 for the visit EACH TIME...there was no insurance billing for these services...it was simply considered an out of pocket expense.

If there were lab fees, we would pay them...it was only when there were MAJOR MEDICAL expenses that we would begin to submit claims, etc...

In my town, if you are a family with children and do not have insurance, there is a clinic that you can take your children to (NOT the HEALTH DEPARTMENT)...the visit is $30 (the docs charge less because there is no one on staff for billing and because the fees are collected immediately)...Am not sure how prescriptions work-but I really think it's a better way to go about things...
We don't have a health care problem in the U.S. We have a health insurance problem. If we get govt health care, then we'll have a health care problem.

Medical Savings Accounts are the best answer because they put the consumer back in charge of the simple expenditures. You get insurance for catastrophic stuff.

Check out some health insurance plans. Those with high deductibles are 1/3 the monthly cost of plans with little or no deductible. These are basically catastrophic plans. You pay for normal stuff, but if you get hit by a bus or something, insurance kicks in.

There's no point in paying for insurance for my kids' annual checkups. We know we have to do it, so why do we involve insurance companies? It just adds to the cost. It's like having grocery insurance. Makes little sense.

dramama
September 29th, 2007, 01:30 PM
SCHIP was going to raise the income level to qualify to 80k and give coverage to illegals. I'm not buying insurance for people who make 80k a year....We live on disability due to DH's cancer and we purchase our own private insurance at 1000.00 a month....if we can do it someone making 80K can provide insurance for their own kids and illegals can go back home!

Resting
September 29th, 2007, 04:19 PM
Exactly.

The problem is health insurance--but it profoundly affects health care costs as well.

Rev. Kev
September 29th, 2007, 04:23 PM
"We don't have a health care problem in the U.S. We have a health insurance problem. If we get govt health care, then we'll have a health care problem."

EXCELLENT QUOTE!!!:thumb

Stinker
September 29th, 2007, 05:49 PM
Too many family's suffering without insurance, or reasonable affordable insurance.

EVERY CHILD, in this country should get whatever health care they need, they SHOULD be covered.

Its to our shame that they are not.

Compassionate conservatism? Thats phrase is becoming a joke.

If we can dump BILLIONS overseas, we CAN cover our Familys and our children.

PS( The vets are having a very hard time) it seems to be only the $Rich$ who are not complaining. The neo-cons are washed up.

The Learner
September 29th, 2007, 06:02 PM
Here I am going to settle the problem of health insurance cost right here in this post. Ready? Here goes:

Limit the amount of monetary damages awarded in health care related law suits.

Then insurance premiums go down, and conversely health care cost go down and conversely everything becomes more affordable.

Of course that is too simple, and no one makes any money that way. The Senate and House are comprised of lawyers, literally 70% of our federal level politicians are practicing attorneys. So as a result legislation favoring trial lawyers is quite prevalent. Thus there will never be anything like what I suggested put into place.

Right now the insurance companies are loving Hillary Clinton, I just would love to know how much money they are funneling her way. She will make it law for everyone to have health insurance, it is a good time to own an insurance company right now.