Confused about a verse.

[Julian4jc]

Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. Zechariah 14:16




I always thought only believers enter the millenium. But in the verse above it says the survivors from all the nations that have ("attacked"unbelievers?) Jerusalem will go up over year after year to worhip the King.

It was my understanding that at the end of the tribulation when the millenium is ushered in, all the unbelievers that survived the tribulation will be cast into hell to await the Great White Throne Judgement.

Would love some clarification on this. Hope i'll sleep tonight :scratch

[Buzzardhut]

Those that see Jesus and believe are welcomed into the New Kingdom and repopulate the earth.

[goinghome]

Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. Zechariah 14:16




I always thought only believers enter the millenium. But in the verse above it says the survivors from all the nations that have ("attacked"unbelievers?) Jerusalem will go up over year after year to worhip the King.

It was my understanding that at the end of the tribulation when the millenium is ushered in, all the unbelievers that survived the tribulation will be cast into hell to await the Great White Throne Judgement.

Would love some clarification on this. Hope i'll sleep tonight :scratch



Sicne I'm the only one who's awake, I'll put in my 2 cents. It's only the unbelievers who have died that will be judged and cast to hell. There will still be some unbelievers left on earth at the 2nd coming who will be allowed to continue living on earth for their natural lifespan (whatever that's going to be, maybe 900 years, maybe just 75 years:idunno). And it does say that at the end of the millennium there will be those who will wage war, once again, against Christ one last time. So it seems like there would have to be some unbelievers left at the 2nd coming, when the millennium starts, so they can pass their sad opinions down to their children and start the whole unbelief thing all over again.:rolleyes However, it is only going to be the believers who have already died who will be in the New Jerusalem during the Millennium (I think), with Christ. Maybe that's what you're thinking of. Unbelievers won't be allowed to enter the New Jerusalem as far as I know. I hope I didn't get this all mixed up.

[Julian4jc]

It's only the unbelievers who have died that will be judged and cast to hell. There will still be some unbelievers left on earth at the 2nd coming who will be allowed to continue living on earth for their natural lifespan.

If thats the case, it would make sense.


And it does say that at the end of the millennium there will be those who will wage war, once again, against Christ one last time. So it seems like there would have to be some unbelievers left at the 2nd coming, when the millennium starts, so they can pass their sad opinions down to their children and start the whole unbelief thing all over again.
I was under the impression that only believers who are dead or alive enter the millenium, all unbelievers are cast into hell. The children who are born into the millenium from the suriving tribulation sains are the ones who rebel against the Lord. They grow up in a christian environment and even though their parents are christian they choose to sin and seek to destroy the Lord.


Thanks for the reply, i know it's late,, i need to hit the sack too. Can't wait to hear others opinion on this verse tomorrow.

[Julian4jc]

Those that see Jesus and believe are welcomed into the New Kingdom and repopulate the earth.

I think you pretty much nailed it... It makes sense who the survivors are now,"those that see" are the surviving nations. Thanks for clarifying it.

[matheteou]

How many unbelievers make it through the tribulation WITHOUT taking the mark? Why would an unbeliever not take the mark?

[true2yeshua]

How many unbelievers make it through the tribulation WITHOUT taking the mark? Why would an unbeliever not take the mark?

[COLOR="Blue"]No unbelievers refuse the mark and they are destroyed at the Millenial return of Christ. As stated above by another poster, those believers that survive the trib will repopulate the earth and of their offspring the unbeliving will rise up against Christ at the conclusion of the Millenium. This proves God's point that man is inherently evil, apart from Christ. Even while living in a perfect environment, with Christ reigning in Jerusalem, there will still be those who chose to reject Him as Lord - without the interference or temptation of the evil one. The unregenerate, at the conclusion of the Millenium, when satan is released, align themselves with him in a war against the Warrior of Heaven and His Saints but, alas, it is futile! Satan is cast alive into the pit to join his two buds, a/c and false prophet and all the damned, for all eternity! Hallelujah to the Lamb of God!

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[CarolLyn]

Zechariah 14:1. Behold, a day is coming for the Lord when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you.
2. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished, and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.
3. Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fights on a day of battle.
4. And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south.
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16. Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths.

The way I see it, somewhere between verse 4 and verse 16, the goat/sheep judgment will take place, which is a judgment of the gentiles who lived during the tribulation. Notice the words "any who are left" of all the nations in vs. 16. This is referring to those individuals who survived the tribulation. Just because a nation went to war against Jerusalem, doesn't mean that every individual in that nation was lost. There will be saved people probably from every nation who will survive the trib. (although very few). Those saved people who survived will go into the Millennial Kingdom. My understanding is that only saved people will populate the MK. It is true that the offspring of those saved people will rebel toward the end of the MK, but to start with, they will all be saved people. All gentiles who survived the trib. will be judged in the sheep/goats judgment and the lost (goats) will be sent into everlasting torment, so there won't be any lost people to populate the MK.

[CarolLyn]

The following scripture indicates that those Gentiles who make it through the tribulation will go through the sheep/goats judgment described as follows:
Matthew 25: 31. "But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne.
32. "And all the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats;
33. and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.
34. "Then the King will say to those on His right, `Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
35. `For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;
36. naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.'
37. "Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, `Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You drink?
38. `And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You?
39. `And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'
40. "And the King will answer and say to them, `Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'
41. "Then He will also say to those on His left, `Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
42. for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink;
43. I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.'
44. "Then they themselves also will answer, saying, `Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'
45. "Then He will answer them, saying, `Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.'
46. "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

According to verse 31, this judgment will take place soon after the second coming of Jesus in glory.

The word “nations” in verse 32 is correctly translated as “gentiles”. It is a judgment of individuals, not nations. Verse 34 identifies this as a judgment to determine those who will inherit the Kingdom. The judgment is based on how these individuals (gentiles) who survived the tribulation treated the Jews during the tribulation. Verse 40 says “to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, Even the least of them, you did it unto Me.” The highlighted words “These brothers of Mine” are referring to the Jews who lived during the tribulation. According to Vs. 46, the “goats” go into eternal punishment, while the “sheep” go into “eternal life”.

[wife]

Sicne I'm the only one who's awake, I'll put in my 2 cents. It's only the unbelievers who have died that will be judged and cast to hell. There will still be some unbelievers left on earth at the 2nd coming who will be allowed to continue living on earth for their natural lifespan (whatever that's going to be, maybe 900 years, maybe just 75 years:idunno). And it does say that at the end of the millennium there will be those who will wage war, once again, against Christ one last time. So it seems like there would have to be some unbelievers left at the 2nd coming, when the millennium starts, so they can pass their sad opinions down to their children and start the whole unbelief thing all over again.:rolleyes However, it is only going to be the believers who have already died who will be in the New Jerusalem during the Millennium (I think), with Christ. Maybe that's what you're thinking of. Unbelievers won't be allowed to enter the New Jerusalem as far as I know. I hope I didn't get this all mixed up.

this is what I was taught and how I understood it. since at the end those that are alive will be given the chance to accept Christ or deny him when the serpent is loosed once again for a short time.