Misguided Shepherds

[Sing4Him]

Here are the facts. Please take care in this thread.
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Misguided Shepherds
Christian Leaders Who Have
Given in to Contemplative Spirituality
(The information on this page can be found in
A Time of Departing, 2nd Edition)


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David Jeremiah - Turning Point Ministries

Jeremiah's Walk Towards Contemplative Spirituality

2001 - Quotes Henri Nouwen in church services

2002 - Endorses back cover of Erwin McManus' book, Seizing Your Divine Moment

2003, 2005 - In his book, Life Wide Open, Jeremiah favorably quotes the following New Agers, Buddhists and contemplatives,( i.e. mystics):
Sue Monk Kidd
Peter Senge (Buddhist) (Listen to Audio Clip of Senge)
Jim Collins
Calvin Miller
Erwin McManus
St. John of the Cross
Brother Lawrence
David Seamands
Eugene Peterson
Rick Warren

2003 - David Jeremiah's church, Shadow Mountain, encourages their men to become involved with contemplative spirituality. Currently, Pastor John Gillette of Shadow Mountain encourages the use of Richard Foster's book, Celebration of Discipline.

2005 - Signs on with Ken Blanchard and Laurie Beth Jones in the Lead Like Jesus conference.
See more.

2006 - David Jeremiah's New Book, Captured by Grace Captured by Grace Discusses Henri Nouwen and includes endorsement by Ken Blanchard

November 2006 - David Jeremiah Quotes Erwin McManus in Sermon - Audio Clip (start at 9:20 minute mark)


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Life Wide Open: Unleashing the Power of a Passionate Life by David Jeremiah

Searching For Passion in All the Wrong Places

David Jeremiah Quotes New Agers in His Book, Life Wide Open

David Jeremiah's 2003 book, Life Wide Open, has a subtitle of "Unleashing the Power of a Passionate Life." In the introduction of the book, Jeremiah tells readers that "A Small handful among us have discovered what the rest of us would pay dearly to know:How can we bring real, living excitement into this life?" Jeremiah goes on to tell readers that "This book is a map to the life of passion and purpose, the life wide open..."

Who are these small handful of people who have discovered the secret? Well according to David Jeremiah's book, his list includes Rick Warren of the Purpose Driven Life, contemplative, feminine spiritualist Sue Monk Kidd ( When the Heart Waits), contemplative Calvin Miller (Into the Depths of God), Buddhist sympathizer Peter Senge (The Fifth Discipline), emerging church leader, Erwin McManus, contemplative Michael Card, and Brother Lawrence (Practicing the Presence of God).

We can see now that we were very wrong about David Jeremiah. When we found out a couple months ago that Jeremiah would be sharing a platform with New Age sympathizer Ken Blanchard, we thought Jeremiah was completely naive when it came to New Age and mystical concepts. We tried to warn him. But if his 2003 book, Life Wide Open, is any indication, Jeremiah has been dabbling with contemplative spirituality for quite some time. And for this we are deeply saddened.
Note: On September 15th, we emailed Dr. Jeremiah to ask him to comment on his book. We never received a response



http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/misguidedshepherds.htm

[Sing4Him]

FYI:

Here is an Erwin McManus Quote:

"EM: Well, I build my life not on the Word of God, but the voice of God. The Scriptures are to me the instrument that God has placed in history for me to learn the voice of God. I treasure the Scriptures."

http://www.relevantmagazine.com/god_article.php?id=6989

[Sing4Him]

Chuck Swindoll - Insight for Living

Chuck Swindoll Goes After the Silence and the Solitude
Writes New Book on the Spiritual Disciplines

So, You Want to Be Like Christ?
Eight Essentials to Get You There
by Charles Swindoll of Insight for Living

A Book on the Solitude and Silence of
Contemplative Prayer

This book should have been subtitled:
"The Eight Spiritual Disciplines of Richard Foster"
Swindoll favorably quotes and describes the spirituality of Richard Foster, who is a disciple of Thomas Merton.

Another Christian leader who has succumbed to the new spirituality that is permeating the church.

Quotes the following:
Richard Foster
Henri Nouwen
Dallas Willard
Eugene Peterson (the Message)
Philip Yancey

QUOTES FROM THE BOOK:

"So you want to be like Christ? Me too. But that kind of godliness won't just happen ... Disciplining ourselves will require the same kind of focused thinking and living that our Master modeled." Introduction

"Let's commit ourselves to these eight spiritual disciplines." Introduction

"Henri Nouwen ... longed to get away from all those words ... So how do we pull it off? How, in a world bent on distracting us from growing deeper? ... How do you and I become more godly? ... The word is discipline. The secret lies in our returning to the spiritual disciplines." p. 9, 10.

"I have sensed a genuine need—in my own life —for the cultivation of intimacy with the Almighty.... God requires spiritual disciplines ... essential in our pursuit of godliness. ... I came across Dallas Willard's excellent work The Spirit of the Disciplines." p. 12

"Richard Foster's meaningful work
Celebration of Discipline ..." p. 15

"Discipline. This is the means for having intimacy with God. ... Discipline is control gained by enforced obedience. It is the deliberate cultivation of inner order. So how are intimacy and discipline connected? ... Discipline is the means to that end." p. 21

The Chapter on Silence and Solitude
Journey into Silence
The Ministry of Silence
Quoting Henri Nouwen's book The Way of the Heart.

Note: In September 2005, we were informed that Chuck Swindoll was favorably quoting Henri Nouwen and Richard Foster on his Insight For Living program. We contacted Insight for Living and spoke with Pastor Graham Lyons. We shared our concerns, then later sent A Time of Departing to him and also a copy to Chuck Swindoll.

In a letter dated 10/3/05 from Pastor Lyons, we were told, "With his schedule I doubt he will read it." We are sorry that Chuck Swindoll has time to read Henri Nouwen and Richard Foster but no time to read A Time of Departing, especially in light of the fact that thousands of people will read Chuck Swindoll's book, listen to his broadcasts and now believe that the contemplative authors are acceptable and good.

Incidentally, Swindoll quoted these men, not just a few times, but many times throughout the book.

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/misguidedshepherds.htm

[Sing4Him]

Please feel free to look into these posts by going to the posted website. Thank you.

[1angel4u]

Please feel free to look into these posts by going to the posted website. Thank you.

I did Sing, thank you. I first googled "contemplative spirituality" because I'm not familiar with it, and lighthousetrails I felt, had the best and easiest to understand information. Boy, satan is working over-time these days isn't he? Just one more mystic lie that is not only fooling new seekers of the real meaning in life, i.e. God, Jesus & the H.S., but also members who've been with their congregations so long they probably don't even realize what they're being fed now is not that of sound doctrine. I probably wouldn't have realized it years ago before I had the Holy Spirit's help of discerning.

This is just awful. :ohno

[Sing4Him]

:hug

I probably wouldn't have realized it years ago before I had the Holy Spirit's help of discerning
:nod I know.. it is awful..

Try and get the book, Faith Undone, by Roger Oakland.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/NiseyG/faithundonelarge-1.jpg


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(you may want to give some out also.. cheaper in a doz.)

[A Berean]

I figured out which way Jeremiah was going about a year ago. Now, Chuck Swindoll- this is terrible!! Where is that wonderful Holy Spirit discernment that would keep any Christian, especially a "leader", from being misguided????

[KitsapGirl]

I figured out which way Jeremiah was going about a year ago. Now, Chuck Swindoll- this is terrible!! Where is that wonderful Holy Spirit discernment that would keep any Christian, especially a "leader", from being misguided????

Being squelched by Pollitical Correctness....we've been desensitized.

[Sing4Him]

Kitsap... yes..

I can't believe this. This is where I posted info on Charles Stanley and received quite a bit of HEAT from people...

but sadly.. upon research, he would be placed in this "misguided shepherds" realm also.

Truly my heart is grieved over this.

There are once evangelical colleges that turn into "emergent"/Contemplative schools. sad.. very sad.

[iSong6:3]

Chuck Swindoll now? This is tragic. I loved his sermons and had a few of his books.

For so long I was more interested in the political aspects of prophecy. I guess years ago I had no real idea of what the Great Apostasy could really be. I felt assured we had many strong leaders who really, really knew Jesus and loved Him and His Word, that they were given to protect and guide us. You think you *know* people and then lately, it's like *POOF!*, they are tipped into some spiritual insanity. It hurts. And it makes me furious and want to fight back against the encroaching darkness in His light and in the power of His might. I am so glad to be here with all of you. I feel the strength of your spirits.