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Jesse
October 1st, 2007, 06:47 PM
For those who are interested, here are a couple of sermons by a pastor named Bob Hoekstra....

The Sovereignty Of God And The Responsibility Of Man - Part 1 (Sermon - MP3) (http://www.livinginchrist.org/images/stories/library/hoekstra-bob/studies-topical/MajorThemes-27studies/20-major.mp3) - Notes. (http://www.livinginchrist.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=114&Itemid=0">Notes)
Dial-up users should click here (http://www.livinginchrist.org/images/stories/library/hoekstra-bob/studies-topical/MajorThemes-27studies/20-major-16.mp3) to listen to this one.

The Sovereignty Of God And The Responsibility Of Man - Part 2 (Sermon - MP3) (http://www.livinginchrist.org/images/stories/library/hoekstra-bob/studies-topical/MajorThemes-27studies/21-major.mp3) - Notes. (http://www.livinginchrist.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=115&Itemid=0)
Dial-up users should click here (http://www.livinginchrist.org/images/stories/library/hoekstra-bob/studies-topical/MajorThemes-27studies/21-major-16.mp3) to listen to this one.

Both of these sermons are taken from Living In Christ Ministries. (http://www.livinginchrist.org/index.php)

The first sermon that I posted here is 38 minutes and 16 seconds, and the second sermon is 25 minutes and 46 seconds. You should be able to burn both of them on one CD if you have a CD burner. Both of these sermons are also posted on the following page on my site: http://members.tripod.com/jdlarsenmn/calvinism.htm

So you can also find them there any time.

Beth O
October 3rd, 2007, 04:51 PM
For those who are interested, here are a couple of sermons by a pastor named Bob Hoekstra....

The Sovereignty Of God And The Responsibility Of Man - Part 1 (Sermon - MP3) (http://www.livinginchrist.org/images/stories/library/hoekstra-bob/studies-topical/MajorThemes-27studies/20-major.mp3) - Notes. (http://www.livinginchrist.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=114&Itemid=0">Notes)
Dial-up users should click here (http://www.livinginchrist.org/images/stories/library/hoekstra-bob/studies-topical/MajorThemes-27studies/20-major-16.mp3) to listen to this one.

The Sovereignty Of God And The Responsibility Of Man - Part 2 (Sermon - MP3) (http://www.livinginchrist.org/images/stories/library/hoekstra-bob/studies-topical/MajorThemes-27studies/21-major.mp3) - Notes. (http://www.livinginchrist.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=115&Itemid=0)
Dial-up users should click here (http://www.livinginchrist.org/images/stories/library/hoekstra-bob/studies-topical/MajorThemes-27studies/21-major-16.mp3) to listen to this one.

Both of these sermons are taken from Living In Christ Ministries. (http://www.livinginchrist.org/index.php)

The first sermon that I posted here is 38 minutes and 16 seconds, and the second sermon is 25 minutes and 46 seconds. You should be able to burn both of them on one CD if you have a CD burner. Both of these sermons are also posted on the following page on my site: http://members.tripod.com/jdlarsenmn/calvinism.htm

So you can also find them there any time.

Thank you Jesse, both sermons are excellent. I felt they would help on a couple other threads, so I hope that you don't mind, but I linked your post on those threads. I've always felt that the truth is found somewhere in the middle of the two extremes of Calvinism and Arminianism. Pastor Hoekstra.... does a great job of explaining this.

Jesse
December 12th, 2007, 07:15 PM
Thank you Jesse, both sermons are excellent. I felt they would help on a couple other threads, so I hope that you don't mind, but I linked your post on those threads. I've always felt that the truth is found somewhere in the middle of the two extremes of Calvinism and Arminianism. Pastor Hoekstra.... does a great job of explaining this.

I don't mind you linking my post on other threads. I'm sorry that it took me so long to respond here. :o

Beth O
December 12th, 2007, 07:40 PM
I don't mind you linking my post on other threads. I'm sorry that it took me so long to respond here. :o

That's good, because I've linked it several times since then! :hat

Jesse
December 19th, 2007, 04:54 PM
That's good, because I've linked it several times since then! :hat

Also check out this thread: http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=17307

Jesse
March 1st, 2008, 01:21 AM
:bump

Hootmon
March 3rd, 2008, 10:13 AM
I've always felt that the truth is found somewhere in the middle of the two extremes of Calvinism and Arminianism.:nod

blitzkreig
March 3rd, 2008, 05:21 PM
Hootmon ... if you are interested in a rather thorough study more or less on the topic you should get hold of the book "The Two Wills of God" by Puritan writer C. Matthew McMahon.

It takes a sturdy constitution to read it as it is some 550 pages and deals at a very detailed level using the "metaphysical reasoning muscle" more than most books one finds today.

It explains about the concept of the "Continuum" ... the outworking of the Plan of the Godhead. Just what did happen "before the foundation of the world" ...

I got it directly from McMahon a few years back (he was selling it on CD over the web) before it went to print, but it appears to be available on hard copy now ...

http://www.puritanpublications.com/Books/TwoWills.htm

I have read it a few times and I get a bit more out of it each time (but you know that I'm a little thick) ... :lol2

If you get it I do guarantee you will be effected by it. Gives one a lot more to think about ...

:wave

Hootmon
March 4th, 2008, 12:35 PM
Thanks for the tip.