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RWSchilz
October 3rd, 2007, 10:40 PM
Rebuts widely publicized study this summer by UK scientists

Despite the claim of a heavily publicized recent study, the sun still appears to be the main agent in global climate change, according to new research by Danish scientists.

The study by the Danish National Space Center rebuts a July study by UK scientists who allege there has not been a solar-climate link in the past 20 years.

The Danish researchers, Henrik Svensmark and Eigil Friis-Christensen, contend the UK study erroneously relies on surface air temperature, which, they say, "does not respond to the solar cycle."

Over the past 20 years, however, the Danes argue, the solar cycle remains fully apparent in variations both of tropospheric air temperature and of ocean sub-surface water temperature.

"When the response of the climate system to the solar cycle is apparent in the troposphere and ocean, but not in the global surface temperature, one can only wonder about the quality of the surface temperature record," Svensmark and Friis-Christensen say.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57949

The debate goes on and on!:):hug

Mulligan
October 3rd, 2007, 11:18 PM
As the saying goes..."If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything".:aha

lilbitsyspider
October 4th, 2007, 06:56 AM
As the saying goes..."If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything".:aha

:aha

Logicon
October 5th, 2007, 01:48 PM
I know the sun is getting hotter every year. I have lived a long time and I can certainly discern the difference in its effect on earth. Plus the earth's axis has moved, which has caused a lot of weather changes. I think it may have moved a little off it's axis because of underground nuclear testing.

ddg1263
October 5th, 2007, 04:07 PM
Plus the earth's axis has moved, which has caused a lot of weather changes. I think it may have moved a little off it's axis because of underground nuclear testing.


I have never heard this one. Where did you see that the earths axis has been altered? I have heard of perhaps the magnetic north may shift but todate it has not moved an inch. I am not being critical but I am just asking where did you hear this?

KnightErrant
October 8th, 2007, 02:10 PM
I know the sun is getting hotter every year. I have lived a long time and I can certainly discern the difference in its effect on earth. Plus the earth's axis has moved, which has caused a lot of weather changes. I think it may have moved a little off it's axis because of underground nuclear testing.

Our Sun is a variable star; it's output increases and decreases on a 1500 year cycle. We are approaching a maximum now, like the Medevil and Roman warm periods.

KitsapGirl
October 8th, 2007, 04:51 PM
I have never heard this one. Where did you see that the earths axis has been altered? I have heard of perhaps the magnetic north may shift but todate it has not moved an inch. I am not being critical but I am just asking where did you hear this?

The only thing I have heard about this is that when the tsunami happened in December 2004, the earth "popped" and created a noticable wobble...but then it returned to it's usual tilt.

It's only a blip in this article...



http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/12/28/1103996533891.html

ddg1263
October 8th, 2007, 07:12 PM
The only thing I have heard about this is that when the tsunami happened in December 2004, the earth "popped" and created a noticable wobble...but then it returned to it's usual tilt.

Dang.. I did not know this!! thanks for the post.

KitsapGirl
October 8th, 2007, 07:15 PM
Dang.. I did not know this!! thanks for the post.


It pays to have a budding scientist in the house.....you get a lot of seemingly useless information.

Logicon
October 10th, 2007, 06:04 PM
I'm not sure where I heard that about the axis. It was awhile back that I read it somewhere. It seems like it was here on RR that I read it. So, don't hold me to it in concrete.