Are there 2 gospels?

[Mechaberean]

Jesus proclaimed He was the Messiah to the Jews so that they would accept Him as King and deliverer, the Romans would have killed Him anyway, on grounds of usurping Roman rule.

-----------Um in Acts the Apostles told Israel they murdered Him Acts2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

[Topped 3]

See post #20 on this link... http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=16854
GTR Returns provided by K.R. Blades...IMO this overview of Paul's Gospel is indisputable and unargueable against...Paul said " if anyone preaches any other gospel unto you,other than that which we have preached(Pauls Gospel of Grace thru Faith OF Christ),let them be accursed "...

[BlessedinHim]

See post #20 on this link... http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=16854
GTR Returns provided by K.R. Blades...IMO this overview of Paul's Gospel is indisputable and unargueable against...Paul said " if anyone preaches any other gospel unto you,other than that which we have preached(Pauls Gospel of Grace thru Faith OF Christ),let them be accursed "...IMO anyone preaching non-applicable doctrine in this dispensation of the Grace of God is releiving The Lord of the Obligation of Blessing their ministry and lives. :mazy

So, Peter and Paul preached the same gospel, or Peter would be cursed.

[Topped 3]

So, Peter and Paul preached the same gospel, or Peter would be cursed. If you haven't made the distinction between by faith and thru faith by now,with all the scriptural evidence provided, then there's not much more than can be said...The entire NT is for the Yet to be saved and the just saved...Paul's grace gospel is for the mature christian,frustrated with the conflicting passages of works-vs.- Grace; and they have seen their sinfulness and inability to 'EARN' their salvation , so the only conclusion is to "rightly divide" (2 ti.2:15) the scriptures ; if you don't ,self-condemnation,exasperation and legalism rule in people's hearts and minds. Peter's and the other disciples epistles are still there for our instruction, but the aspects that contradict Paul's Gospel are for 2 different dispensational periods..before the full diminishing into Paul's Gospel (that God hath concluded them ALL in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all..)Ro.11:32..and during the tribulation period. :scripture

[HeIsEnough]

See post #20 on this link... http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=16854
GTR Returns provided by K.R. Blades...IMO this overview of Paul's Gospel is indisputable and unargueable against...Paul said " if anyone preaches any other gospel unto you,other than that which we have preached(Pauls Gospel of Grace thru Faith OF Christ),let them be accursed "...IMO anyone preaching non-applicable doctrine in this dispensation of the Grace of God is releiving The Lord of the Obligation of Blessing their ministry and lives. :mazy

Your view is incorrect and easily refuted. Please refrain from threats of loss of blessing from God, that is way above your pay grade, and will actually work against you.

[HeIsEnough]

If you haven't made the distinction between by faith and thru faith by now,with all the scriptural evidence provided, then there's not much more than can be said...The entire NT is for the Yet to be saved and the just saved...Paul's grace gospel is for the mature christian,frustrated with the conflicting passages of works-vs.- Grace; and they have seen their sinfulness and inability to 'EARN' their salvation , so the only conclusion is to "rightly divide" (2 ti.2:15) the scriptures ; if you don't ,self-condemnation,exasperation and legalism rule in people's hearts and minds. Peter's and the other disciples epistles are still there for our instruction, but the aspects that contradict Paul's Gospel are for 2 different dispensational periods..before the full diminishing into Paul's Gospel (that God hath concluded them ALL in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all..)Ro.11:32..and during the tribulation period. :scripture

I will not repeat myself again on this matter. Do NOT regard or otherwise insinuate that the believers here discussing these issues with you are mixing law into their systematic theology.

[Mechaberean]

The Bible points to God saving man through Blood covenant and in many other ways that point to blood covenant, all of God's good works for man would be more than all the books ever written.----------I believe James says other wise they had faith then they were justified by their own works James2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

[Mechaberean]

They slowly understood as time progressed and fully understood by Acts.
But their Faith in God providing the way through blood covenant was always there
--------------That wasn't the point, the point is some on this board believe God always had a remnant that believed in the one faith and one gospel and that is wrong;Nobody in the gospels did and they walked with Jesus three years.

[Mechaberean]

17 times the word my righteousness is used in the Old Testament. In fact David says Psalm7:8 The LORD shall judge the people: judge me, O LORD, according to my righteousness, and according to mine integrity that is in me. But here is our righteousness in our age Romans3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.We have free Justification, and righteousness in our age.

[LaMontre]

I am not putting aside the realtiolnship with God and Israel in any way.
I am simply saying that from a much larger perspective - this discussion of Peter and Paul's gospel's being for two different groups of people is focusing on the wrong 'syllable' LOL The scriptures are not about Israel and the Gentiles - it is about the differences in a person's heart separated from God.

Oh I do agree.

There are many people making the same errors that are spoken to with Israel in the Gospels who are in the gentile group and visa versa. The message is the same - just different perspectives sometimes and with different empahsis depending on the level of maturity of the heart and the amount one is engrained in religion.

It is not about the lineage - but about the condition of the heart.

This is true, of course.