Liberal Mob Rage & Protests on Occupy Wall Street

[BarbT]

Humanism run amok.

Everything FREE from cradle to grave. Anyone caught saying "God is my provider" would be questioned for sedition against the state. Karl Marx would be proud.

[Buzzardhut]

Analyzing Their List Of Grievances... http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-01/news/30232509_1_protestors-gender-identity-manifesto


Some of these grievances, it turns out, are perfectly reasonable.

Others are dubious.

Still others are ridiculous.

The protestors still haven't stated what they want. But at least now we know what they're upset about.

So let's have a look, shall we?

Here's an annotated copy of the manifesto...

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

[Nice echo of the Declaration of Independence.]

As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice [good start—the bailout WAS mass injustice—I'm still pissed-off about it], we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. [More Declaration of Independence cadence.]

We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people [unfair blanket smear], self-interest over justice [also an unfair smear], and oppression over equality [oh, please—Procter & Gamble makes toothpaste—it's not their job to worry about "equality"], run our governments ["run" is a bit strong, but "influence" is certainly fair].

We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage. [Yes, they appear to have taken some houses through an illegal process. But, to be fair, in almost all cases, they took them because you did not make your payments.]

They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses. [Oh, yes]

They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation. [In some cases, yes, but, again, a blanket smear]

They have poisoned the food supply through negligence [In some cases, yes], and undermined the farming system through monopolization. [You probably mean "consolidation," not "monopolization," but fine. Your food is now cheaper as a result of this consolidation, though.]

They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices. [Fair.]

They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions. [You mean they've tried to discourage the formation of unions? Okay. But unions cause a lot of problems, too. See the car industry bankruptcy, for example.]

They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right. [Oh, please. Grow up. The students borrowed the money. Don't blame the lenders for asking them to pay it back. And since when is education a "human right"? UPDATE: A couple of readers have pointed out that the UN has, in fact, declared education a right, at least elementary education. I'm not sure I agree with the UN, but I stand corrected. That said, it's clear the UN is referring to basic education, not college and professional educations, which are generally what lead to student loans. Basic education is, in fact, free in the United States. And no one takes out student loans to go K-12.]

They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay. [You mean they have reduced costs to remain competitive? Yes, some of them have. And they've had to. Many corporations have increased pay,

They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility. [The second part is wrong—plenty of companies get in legal trouble—but I'll leave first part to the legal scholars.]

They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance. [In aggregate? Possibly true. But many, many companies—probably the vast majority—have provided good health coverage for their employees, despite not being legally obligated to.]

They have sold our privacy as a commodity. [Seems unlikely that any company has actually sold your "privacy." Maybe your "private information"]

They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. [Examples, please. And please note that "the press" is generally owned by corporations, too, so they don't need the military and police to exercise control over it.]

They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit. [Some bad or sleazy companies, yes. Most, no.]

They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce. [No, they do not "determine" economic policy. They do have a lot of influence over economic policy But inasmuch as economic policy directly and primarily affects corporations—and the ~100 million Americans who work for corporations—it seems reasonable that they should have some influence here. Or do you exclude those ~100 million employees from "the people."?]

They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them. [True.]

They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil. [Well, oil and coal companies certainly aren't eager to see safe cold fusion or mass-solar or geo-thermal commercialized anytime soon. But alternative energy corporations would be stoked to see us forgo oil. And many other companies—most, actually—couldn't really care less what their power comes from, as long as it's affordable.]

They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit. ["Block?" You mean try to enforce their patents? Developing drugs is expensive. How would you like it if you spent $1 billion developing a boner pill only to have your competitor instantly reverse-engineer it and start selling it for 1/10th your price? Having at least some period of exclusivity seems perfectly reasonable.]

They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit. [Yes, some have.]

They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media. [Oh, come on. Take off the tinfoil hats. People aren't THAT stupid. And the media LOVES to trash corporations. And besides, now there's the Internet and Twitter, so you don't need the media anymore.]

They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt. [Sounds horrible. Need some details. Again, almost certainly not something the vast majority of companies have done.]

They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas. ["Perpetuated colonialism." Need some more detail there. And with respect to the "murder of innocent civilians overseas," you probably want to direct some blame at governments, too.]

They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. [Okay, but let's rephrase that, shall we? They make weapons that governments order.]

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-01/news/30232509_1_protestors-gender-identity-manifesto/2

[ThePenguin]

"These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy." http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/

They should rephrase that: "These demands are so crazy that it is completely impossible for them to work."

[Praying]

That's just one of many reasons. Why haven't they approached the one who threw all our cash at these banks?

What are the other reasons?

That seems to be the million dollar question. I have spent many hours the past several days trying to make some kind of sense of it , and I can't seem to truly wrap my mind around it all as of yet. Right now, it seems as though there are some included in the occupations who truly have legitimate concerns, such as the economy, making those who received bailouts who are now doing fine pay us back, etc. This is an example of what I personally consider to be a very valid issue. Some are teachers who have received their pink slips, - others are worried about their pensions, social security, rising costs, etc.

Then, there are these others included, who are way out in left field, - asking for things that are of a "socialist" nature, which is obviously coming from the leftists. There is such a mix in these occupations, - it makes it difficult to sort through it all. My biggest concern, is those who do indeed have valid issues, and there are many who do, - are being used unknowingly, to help support a hidden agenda.

If I find out anything of true substance, I will pass it along. I believe there is definitely something to this, and we all need to pray. If this continues, we all know what that would do to election year if we are still here. I am praying we won't be.:pray:pray:pray

[Buzzardhut]

How ‘Occupy Wall Street’ Was Organized From Day One by SEIU/ACORN Front – The Working Family Party, and How They All Tie to the Obama Administration, DNC, Democratic Socialists of America, Tides and George Soros

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-exposing-occupy-wall-street-was-organized-from-day-one-by-seiu-acorn-front-the-working-family-party-and-how-they-all-tie-to-the-obama-administration-dnc-democratic-socialists-of-america/


Breakdown of the Connections Between The Working Family Party, SEIU, ACORN, The New Party, The DNC, Democratic Socialists of America, Tides, George Soros and The Obama Administration:

The Working Families Party was established in the 90s by key members of the the socialist organizations The New Party, ACORN, SEIU, and a coalition of other labor unions and community organizations.

Patrick Gaspard, the current executive director of the DNC, former director of Obama’s Office of Political Affairs, was an organizer for the New Party, the executive vice president of the SEIU Local 1199, political director for Bertha Lewis (the former president of ACORN) and a co-chair of the Working Families Party.

The New Party is a socialist political coalition co-founded in 1992 by academic and political activist Joel Rogers.

The first strategic meetings to plan the New Party were held in Joel Rogers’ Madison, Wisconsin home; Wade Rathke, ACORN and SEIU founder and Gerry Hudson from Democratic Socialists of America and SEIU were in attendance at those meetings.

The New Party’s influential Chicago chapter began to formed in January 1995. Its members consisted mainly of individuals from ACORN, SEIU and the Democratic Socialists of America. Obama attended a New Party function and received their endorsement in 1995.

In 1994, a New Party newspaper listed more than 100 activists “who are building the NP;” some names among the list of 100 were Noam Chomsky, Frances Fox Piven, Wade Rathke, Cornel West, Jon Barton of SEIU, Maude Hurd of ACORN and Margaret Shelleda of SEIU.

Gerry Hudson, SEIU Executive Vice President and original New Party member, serves on the board of the Apollo Alliance organized by Joel Rogers’ group COWS Center on Wisconsin Strategy. The Alliance is a project of the Tides Center. Harry Reid credited the Apollo Alliance with helping to write the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

George Soros’ Open Society Institute is a major source of money behind the Apollo Alliance and the Tides Foundation.

[Praying]

How ‘Occupy Wall Street’ Was Organized From Day One by SEIU/ACORN Front – The Working Family Party, and How They All Tie to the Obama Administration, DNC, Democratic Socialists of America, Tides and George Soros

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-exposing-occupy-wall-street-was-organized-from-day-one-by-seiu-acorn-front-the-working-family-party-and-how-they-all-tie-to-the-obama-administration-dnc-democratic-socialists-of-america/

Yep, that's what I'm saying.....many of the occupiers don't know this. They are out there for legitimate reasons,(many of them) - some even bringing up the problem with Soros and the influence he seems to have over the economy, without even knowing they are helping him in his plan. As frustrated as people are, including me, it is easy to see how so many would fall right into this, - a chance to join with others to have their voices heard. Honestly, - at another time in my life many years ago, I probably would have been right out there with them, - holding my sign, - and remaining clueless and oblivious to the whole picture.

[jackson64]

While there may be some who have joined this movement out of frustration from being unemployed, struggling to make ends meet etc etc...the idealists who started this movement, and the unions and community organizations like ACORN, SEIU, --they are all big supporters of a communist agenda--do not be deceived. The leaders of this movement claim that they are directing this at Wall Street-but we all know it is political. Those men on the 90th floor of Goldman Sachs are not going to say, " Sorry, you guys are right,the money back and I promise-NO MORE BONUSES FOR US"...yeah right.

SO>>>>>>>>> I'm giving Below I am going to analyze many of the demands that Occupy Wall Street protesters have been making. A lot of them have been directly taken from the formal list of complaints posted on the "official" organizing website of Occupy Wall Street.

As you will see, there are a whole lot of reasons why there "protesters" should be very angry with Barack Obama, IF THERE WERE ANY HONESTY WITH THIS MOVEMENT, however we all know that nearly all of them will show up to vote for Obama once again in 2012.

Just like so many "true conservatives" apologized for George W. Bush for all those years, now we are seeing those on the left apologize for Barack Obama.

It is truly sickening.

Posted below are 11 reasons why Occupy Wall Street protesters are hypocrites if they do not call for Barack Obama to resign immediately....

#1 Occupy Wall Street says that they are angry that the big Wall Street banks "have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give executives exorbitant bonuses."

Well, if Barack Obama and John McCain had not aggressively pushed for the Wall Street bailouts back in 2008, they never would have happened. After Obama took office, he rammed through even more bailouts. The reality is that you could easily call Barack Obama "the king of the Wall Street bailouts".

#2 Occupy Wall Street says that they are angry that the big Wall Street banks "have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them."

Yet they ignore the fact that 3 of the top 7 donors to Obama's campaign in 2008 were the very Wall Street banks that the Occupy Wall Street movement is protesting.

Once again, Barack Obama will be taking in huge amounts of money from the wealthy and from big Wall Street banks for his run in 2012.

So why aren't they complaining about that?

#3 One of the big themes of the Occupy Wall Street protests is the fact that Wall Street has way too much influence and power over the federal government.

Well, the Obama administration is absolutely packed with ex-executives of giant corporations and big Wall Street banks. Earlier this year, Michael Brenner wrote the following about the current composition of the Obama administration....

Wall Street's takeover of the Obama administration is now complete. The mega-banks and their corporate allies control every economic policy position of consequence. Mr. Obama has moved rapidly since the November debacle to install business people where it counts most. Mr.William Daley from JP Morgan Chase as White House Chief of Staff. Mr. Gene Sperling from the Goldman Sachs payroll to be director of the National Economic Council. Eileen Rominger from Goldman Sachs named director of the SEC's Investment Management division. Even the National Security Advisor, Thomas Donilon, was executive vice president for law and policy at the disgraced Fannie Mae after serving as a corporate lobbyist with O'Melveny & Roberts. The keystone of the business friendly team was put in place on Friday. General Electric Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Immelt will serve as chair of the president's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

#4 Occupy Wall Street says that it is deeply concerned about the rampant corruption in our financial system.

The Federal Reserve is the very heart and soul of our financial system, and yet there has been very little real criticism of the Fed by Occupy Wall Street protesters.

If Occupy Wall Street truly wanted to do something about our financial system they would be calling for the Federal Reserve to be shut down.

But their hero, Barack Obama, actually nominated Ben Bernanke for a second term as Federal Reserve Chairman and Obama continues to support him 100 percent even after a horrible track record of failures that is legendary.

#5 Occupy Wall Street says that it is angry that big corporations "have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay."

This issue alone should be enough for Occupy Wall Street to call for Barack Obama to resign.

The Obama administration has pushed very hard for new "free trade" agreements with Panama, South Korea and Colombia and the Obama administration is currently making the Trans-Pacific Partnership ("the NAFTA of the Pacific") a very high priority.

The Obama administration has been very aggressively trying to expand the "free trade" policies that are costing us millions of jobs.

In fact, members of the Obama administration run around and openly talk about how there are things that "we don't want to make in America".

For example, the following is what U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk recently told Tim Robertson of the Huffington Post about the Obama administration's attitude toward keeping manufacturing jobs in America....

Let's increase our competitiveness... the reality is about half of our imports, our trade deficit is because of how much oil [we import], so you take that out of the equation, you look at what percentage of it are things that frankly, we don't want to make in America, you know, cheaper products, low-skill jobs that frankly college kids that are graduating from, you know, UC Cal and Hastings [don't want], but what we do want is to capture those next generation jobs and build on our investments in our young people, our education infrastructure.
Unions should be screaming bloody murder about this.

But instead they are going to line up behind Barack Obama once again in 2012 like good little, followers.

#6 Occupy Wall Street says that the big health insurance companies "have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance."

Well, the health insurance companies helped to write huge portions of Obamacare. Instead of reducing the power of health insurance companies, Obamacare actually gives them more power and will actually increase their profits. The sad truth is that large portions of Obamacare are virtually identical to a bill that was written by the health insurance trade association in 2009. Under Obamacare, our health care costs will go up even faster and the quality of our health care will continue to go down.

#7 Occupy Wall Street says that they are angry because the big banks "have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage."

Occupy Wall Street is correct about this.

So where has Barack Obama been on this issue? The reality is that the Obama administration has done very little about the horrific foreclosure abuses that have been going on.

#8 Occupy Wall Street is upset that "our privacy" has been sold "as a commodity."

Well, why aren't Occupy Wall Street protesters calling out Barack Obama for his horrific track record on civil liberties.

The national security apparatus that George W. Bush set up has been greatly expanded by Barack Obama.

It was the Obama administration that decided that it was necessary for TSA thugs to feel our private parts before we board our flights and it was the Obama administration that decided that TSA "VIPR teams" should run around the country conducting approximately 8,000 "unannounced security screenings" a year at subway stations, bus terminals, ports and highway rest stops.

So where is the outrage?

The truth is that under the Obama administration the United States is becoming more like a totalitarian police state every single day.

Once again, this issue alone should be enough for Occupy Wall Street to demand that Barack Obama should resign.

#9 Occupy Wall Street is angry that the United States has "perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad."

Oh really?

Under Barack Obama, the U.S. military has been used as the "police of the world" even more than it was under George W. Bush.

Under Obama, the war in Afghanistan was greatly expanded and the U.S. military began bombing the living daylights out of Libya. In addition, under Obama the U.S. military has been conducting air strikes in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.

Today, there is a U.S. military base in over half of the countries on the planet and U.S. military spending is more than 7 times larger than the military spending of any other nation on earth.

So if "the left" was angry at George W. Bush for what he did, then why aren't they filled with rage at Barack Obama for his policies?

#10 Occupy Wall Street is angry that the U.S. has "participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas."

Well, Barack Obama did not shut down Guantanamo Bay as he promised to do.

So where is the accountability?

Today, the Obama administration conducts "enhanced interrogations" of prisoners and performs "extraordinary renditions" in foreign countries.

If liberals want to complain about "torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas", it isn't the Republicans they should be angry at.

Barack Obama is running our foreign policy, and he should be held accountable for what is going on.

#11 Occupy Wall Street is angry because the wealthy are not paying their "fair share" of taxes.

Well, it is undeniable that many big corporations (such as Obama's good friends over at GE) quite often get away with paying no taxes at all.

But Barack Obama and the Democrats controlled the White House and all of Congress for two whole years.

So why didn't they "fix" the tax code while they had the chance? Could it be that they actually like the current system?

The truth is that our current tax system is so flawed, so complex and so full of holes that it needs to be thrown out entirely. Many big corporations get away with bloody murder under the current tax system, yet nearly all establishment Democrats and nearly all establishment Republicans want to keep the current system of taxation. What U.S. corporations are able to get away with is absolutely amazing.

The following figures come directly out of a report by Citizens for Tax Justice. These are combined figures for the tax years 2008, 2009 and 2010.

During those three years, all of the corporations below made a lot of money. Yet all of them paid net taxes that were below zero for those three years combined.

How is that possible? Well, it turns out that instead of paying in taxes to the federal government, they were actually getting money back.

So for these corporations, their rate of taxation was actually below zero.

If you have not seen these before, you are going to have a hard time believing some of these statistics.....

*Honeywell*

Profits: $4.9 billion

Taxes: -$34 million

*Fed Ex*

Profits: $3 billion

Taxes: -$23 million

*Wells Fargo*

Profits: $49.37 billion

Taxes: -$681 million

*Boeing*

Profits: $9.7 billion

Taxes: -$178 million

*Verizon*

Profits: $32.5 billion

Taxes: -$951 million

*Dupont*

Profits: $2.1 billion

Taxes -$72 million

*American Electric Power*

Profits: $5.89 billion

Taxes -$545 million

*General Electric*

Profits: $7.7 billion

Taxes: -$4.7 billion

Are you starting to get the picture?
The amazing thing is that GE can get away with all this and still ship thousands upon thousands of good American jobs out of the country. Unions from many of these companies--Verizon in particular--are actually organizing and joining these protests--TALK ABOUT HYPOCRISY.

There is no way that our current tax code can be fixed with a few "tweaks" here and there. Our current tax code is an abomination that should be immediately repealed and flushed down the toilet.

But the Democrats and most Republicans seem to want to keep it around. They like to play their little social engineering games with the tax code, and the current tax code enables their wealthy donors to do quite nicely.

Occupy Wall Street is right to argue that our tax code is fundamentally unjust, and the number one person that they need to point the finger at is Barack Obama.

So can any "liberal" out there actually defend Barack Obama after reading all of this? Not if they have the brainpower to "get it" or the honesty to admit that they are themselves a large part of the problem. The socialism they are calling for by nature will always have an "elitist" class who act as distributors. Proletariat societies always end up with devastating levels of huiman misery. All human governments are flawed by our sinful natures--however capitalism and representative democracy are the best that humans have come up with. These poor, misguided protestors need to read some history about what life was TRULY like under Mao and Stalin ( starving 20 million people TO DEATH when they had the food is beyond comprehension in many ways but it happened)..careful what you wish for protestors...........

[Jacinth]

*Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books."
And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.Yes and what to do when debt racks up again.....

They don't know how to think things through....:tsk

[araj54]

Jackson64's post was right on. These are the major issues and the protesters should focus on, but that will not happen because the real power behind the protests basically just want civil unrest, and little else.
I saw an interview last night with the organizer of the protests in Minnesota and she had absolutely NO CLUE why they were there. I believe she was just a pawn being used by SEIU, ACORN or whoever drafted her services, to simply get people riled up.

[antitox]

Jackson64's post was right on. These are the major issues and the protesters should focus on, but that will not happen because the real power behind the protests basically just want civil unrest, and little else.
I saw an interview last night with the organizer of the protests in Minnesota and she had absolutely NO CLUE why they were there. I believe she was just a pawn being used by SEIU, ACORN or whoever drafted her services, to simply get people riled up.

I saw where Foxnews interviewed many people who couldn't make any sense of what the issues were. It's like they all just went out to complain about rich people and wall st. They had no idea how the economy works or where jobs actually come from. So it's obvious they got rallied by the leftists and they were dumb enough to follow the pied piper.

It's really sad to see today's young people so easily bought off.