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OnceWasLost
November 9th, 2011, 08:34 AM
I'm not speaking of poor rich, but truly hereditary rich elite class and multinational or Fortune 500 corporations. Unless you had at least high tens of millions, you aren't in the class I'm talking about.

They are few compared to the much larger number that are "rich" and people don't even know them. The rich, as you speak exist, but are not the ones killing the country. That is a fabrication of the media and the other elites who love to fan the flames of class warfare.

ThePenguin
November 9th, 2011, 08:36 AM
Penguin, I enjoyed working at McD's, too, but I mostly got put on front counter and drive-thru, when what I really liked was working on the grill, making the food. When I would close, they usually had me doing the dishes, which was fine with me because I could work by myself during that time. French fries are good when dipped in Big Mac sauce, BTW.


Wow! I knew people who quit because they were put on grill. :hehee I too was on counter and drive-thru a lot (I like to tell myself it's because I was good at taking drive-thru orders and handling money at the same time :hehee); if you were on drive-thru late at night you'd also have to do dishes as they came through, which was kind of a pain but kind of nice because you'd normally always have something to do. Oh yeah, and late at night we would make kiddie cocktails with the leftover cherry juice. :heh

French fries in Mac sauce are delicious! Fries covered in the angus seasoning are good too. You just put some of the powder that they put on the angus sandwiches into a small cup, putting some fries in, put the lid on, and shake it, and the fries would become coated in the angus seasoning. :drool

Raphael
November 9th, 2011, 08:47 AM
It may interest you to know that the fast food name originated from an earlier version of Oliver Twist:

"Please, sir, may I have some more McGruel?"

outside60
November 9th, 2011, 09:18 AM
Wow! I knew people who quit because they were put on grill. :hehee I too was on counter and drive-thru a lot (I like to tell myself it's because I was good at taking drive-thru orders and handling money at the same time :hehee); if you were on drive-thru late at night you'd also have to do dishes as they came through, which was kind of a pain but kind of nice because you'd normally always have something to do. Oh yeah, and late at night we would make kiddie cocktails with the leftover cherry juice. :heh

French fries in Mac sauce are delicious! Fries covered in the angus seasoning are good too. You just put some of the powder that they put on the angus sandwiches into a small cup, putting some fries in, put the lid on, and shake it, and the fries would become coated in the angus seasoning. :drool

I usually treat my young son to McDonald's once a week. He usually goes for the Happy Meal (chicken nuggets w/honey mustard sauce) and a chocolate milk for a drink. I take advantage of the value menu and get a McDouble and french fries. I love their chocolate shakes as well! I have yet to try a McRib but might just get one this Friday.

Wally
November 9th, 2011, 09:22 AM
Raphael....

You're so.....



McPhunny.

BarbT
November 9th, 2011, 09:43 AM
It's the greed for money that is evil, no matter what economic system used. Ironically, the Occupy crowd claiming to hate greed have had greed sown into them their entire lives from the left. It shows in how they're conducting themselves.

These people have no idea they're being used as pawns to fight a completely different war for the Marxist elites who control them.

ComeLordJesus
November 9th, 2011, 01:20 PM
Even still, what was posited is a canned stereotypical leftist style attack on free enterprise and capitalism that's heavily laden with emotion and short on facts. It's precisely that emotional appeal that makes it very easy to perpetuate the demagoguery spread by Marxists and their ilk. The truth is capitalism has lifted more people from poverty and depression than any other economic model.Leftist attack when I condemned communism as well, and for the record socialism too. :thinking For me, anything manmade has its problems. I guess I meant the top fraction of the one percent.

Come, Lord Jesus!

araj54
November 9th, 2011, 01:49 PM
If greed were eliminated and a sense of fairness was instilled in the hearts of everyone the solutions would come. In this utterly fallen world this will not happen. It shouldn't take govt. laws to force people to do what is right, but it does.

One think many don't understand is the risk "capitalists" take when starting or expanding businesses. The worker only brings skill and a lunchpail, where the owner sometimes risks all he has.

The greed factor is being touted on both sides of the NBA (basketball) negotiations, but there again the player brings only his skill, where as the owner risks his millions, and is responsible for salaries, marketing, stadium costs, etc., When situations arise which threaten the owners investments they will take action. This is what has made them successful and able to provide jobs in the first place.

TimothyK
November 9th, 2011, 02:56 PM
Leftist attack when I condemned communism as well, and for the record socialism too. :thinking For me, anything manmade has its problems. I guess I meant the top fraction of the one percent.

Come, Lord Jesus!

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I get what you were saying. :hug

But the point being made by others is that until that blessed day, capitalism is going to be the best thing we'll ever have in this sin fallen world in the foreseeable future. It's certainly far from perfect! But then these other systems degrade from there to such a way that it's either poverty for all or government sanctioned enslavement for all. More often then not, both.

In our American capitalist society, the poor do have a legitimate chance to be rich or to lift themselves out of their poverty. Our people are free to help any they choose, and free charity does work. It all depends on the person. You can't force people to be kind or generous.

God tells us this much and He Himself rejects such works as those who do 'kindness' because they suppose they're obligated. That's a work of the flesh. God loves a cheerful giver, those who give from the heart.

You can't force people to get a job (try as you might). What did Paul say about those unwilling to work? Able certainly, but unwilling? Some people do have genuine excuses or special needs that need to be addressed by their government, by a kind and caring american society. But let me say it's far, far less then 99% with a genuine special need or excuse.

The '99%' as defined by OWS are looking for a handout at best or else anarchy followed by communism/socialism at worst.


2 Corinthians 9:7
Let each one [give] as he has made up his own mind and purposed in his heart, not reluctantly or sorrowfully or under compulsion, for God loves (He takes pleasure in, prizes above other things, and is unwilling to abandon or to do without) a cheerful (joyous, "prompt to do it") giver [whose heart is in his giving].


2 Thessalonians 3:10-15
For while we were yet with you, we gave you this rule and charge: If anyone will not work, neither let him eat.

Indeed, we hear that some among you are disorderly [that they are passing their lives in idleness, neglectful of duty], being busy with other people's affairs instead of their own and doing no work. Now we charge and exhort such persons [as ministers in Him exhorting those] in the Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah) that they work in quietness and earn their own food and other necessities.

And as for you, brethren, do not become weary or lose heart in doing right [but continue in well-doing without weakening]. But if anyone [in the church] refuses to obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person and do not associate with him, so that he may be ashamed.

Do not regard him as an enemy, but simply admonish and warn him as [being still] a brother.

ComeLordJesus
November 9th, 2011, 03:10 PM
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I get what you were saying. :hug

But the point being made by others is that until that blessed day, capitalism is going to be the best thing we'll ever have in this sin fallen world in the foreseeable future. It's certainly far from perfect! But then these other systems degrade from there to such a way that it's either poverty for all or government sanctioned enslavement for all. More often then not, both.

In our American capitalist society, the poor do have a legitimate chance to be rich or to lift themselves out of their poverty. Our people are free to help any they choose, and free charity does work. It all depends on the person. You can't force people to be kind or generous.

God tells us this much and He Himself rejects such works as those who do 'kindness' because they suppose they're obligated. That's a work of the flesh. God loves a cheerful giver, those who give from the heart.

You can't force people to get a job (try as you might). What did Paul say about those unwilling to work? Able certainly, but unwilling? Some people do have genuine excuses or special needs that need to be addressed by their government, by a kind and caring american society. But let me say it's far, far less then 99% with a genuine special need or excuse.

The '99%' as defined by OWS are looking for a handout at best or else anarchy followed by communism/socialism at worst.Thank you! :hug

And your explanation clears things up. :nod

However, the new Time reports that that socioeconomic mobility in the USA is now unlikely, and that even some European countries are ahead of the USA now.

The minute communism comes to the USA is the minute I emigrate to some other country. I lived in Beijing, China, and I want none of that! :ohno