William Branham?

[Christy]

That angel was the Lord Jesus Christ that he spoke of. It's the same one that is with us, only Branham could see him. Its not complicated.

Scripture and verse please. I'd like to know where in the Bible it states that Jesus appears to people as an angel. And can you please explain to me why an "angel" appeared to both Branham and Muhammed?

The Bible doesn't say Jesus will return several times or appear to man before His 2nd coming either - so how do you explain this event, i.e., that Jesus appeared as an angel to Branham? The Bible is clear that Jesus will appear again ONLY at His 2nd coming - not before then, and He is coming back in wrath.

What the Bible, the inspired Word of God does emphatically state is this:

Matthew 24:5 - For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many.

Luke 21:8 - He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.
2 Corinthians 11:3,4; 13-15 - But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

1 Timothy 4:1 - The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

Matthew 24:11 - and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

Matthew 24:24 - For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible.

II Thessalonians 2:9-12 - The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

And in lieu of Branham's unbelief in the trinity:

1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

It is clear that William Marion Branham is a FALSE PROPHET.

[BlessedinHim]

Branham is a false prophet, he does not uphold scripture according to what has been posted here.

This is what I found interesting:

Soon after the angel visited him and told him he was ordained to take a gift of healing to the people of the world, the first sign appeared – a physical reaction in his hand that happened only when he touched the hand of someone suffering from a germ-caused disease. Within two months of his commission, William Branham’s extraordinary gift had gained national attention. People by the thousands flocked to his meetings, where he preached salvation and Divine healing in the Name of Jesus Christ. Miracles abounded. The world had not seen anything like it since the days when Jesus walked through Galilee, casting out demons and healing all who were sick and afflicted, and infallibly discerning the secrets of hearts, hundreds of thousands of times, without once being wrong. The second gift appeared soon after – he was now able to discern the hearts of the people.

As he testified in his Sermons below:

Rev. William Branham prays: "Now, shall we bow our heads now for prayer. Father, realizing that I be afraid to step into this realm now, without You would hold my hand... Now, my mind is going back to around two years ago, when in the room that night, that Angel of God came walking in there and said, "You are--been borned in this world to take a gift of Divine healing to the people. Many will not believe you; yet many will. If you'll be sincere and will get the people to believe you, not even cancer shall stand before your prayer."

Angel of God, I do not see You. But I know that You are standing near. Please, Thou knowest my heart, and know how I love these people. Stand by me tonight. And may not one go through without faith. And I know that Your Words have been true. I've took You at Your Word, for You said You were sent from God. I believed You. And You've stuck by me. You have confirmed the Word with signs following. Now, again tonight, in this March the fifth, this Memorial night, may You stand now and heal every one. Grant it. May every demon be submissive to the Name of Jesus Christ. And now, Father, I step out here in this realm of Spirit faith, challenging every demon that's here in the Name of Jesus Christ. [At Thy Word, Lord Phoenix, AZ 48-0305]

Rev. William Branham speaks to a lady in need: Bring the lady. All right, sister, what do you think about it? You believe? Put your handkerchief in your other hand, lay your hand on mine. What does that look like to you? Strange looking sight there, isn't it? It's cancer. Come here just a moment. You know when the Angel of the Lord met me, that was the first thing He said, "Till not even cancer will stand before the prayer." Do you believe it? I want you to repeat this and watch my hand. Repeat this as I say, from your heart. Lord Jesus, now I want you to watch, see that moving on my hand? Lord Jesus, [Lady repeats after Brother Branham.--Ed.] I believe You; I accept You as my Healer; I believe that there was a supernatural Being said these things to Brother Branham. I believe His Presence is here now. I accept my healing. Now, what happened? Something changed there, didn't it? Vibrations stopped, didn't it? Your faith has made you whole, sister, your cancer is dead and gone. God bless you.[The Second Miracle Erie, PA 51-0729E]

Rev. William Branham speaks to people in need: Praise the Lord. All right. Come now. You believe? Now, just a moment. There's something dark hanging at the lady, real dark, circling her. (O God, be merciful). Oh, it's a cancer. Yeah.

All right. Do you believe God can heal you of it now? He is the Healer, isn't He? You believe it with all your heart? When the Angel of the Lord met me, He designated cancer would be healed. Come here.

Almighty God, this poor woman, knowing this condition exists in her body, I now, ask Lord, that my faith join with hers. And great Angel of God, Who met me that night, and designated, and said, "Not even cancer will stand, if you'll be sincere, get the people to believe." And Father, with all my heart, I believe that You'll heal her

And I say to the Devil, leave her in Jesus Name, come out from her

God bless you. Go, believing with all your heart now.

You want to get over the high blood pressure, lady, setting there? You've been healed for about ten minutes now, setting there. Amen. I want you to do me a favor. Will you do it now? Your daughter's in the hospital, setting there next to her. That's right. Lay your hand over on him. Will you?

Father, grant the deliverance of her, through Jesus Name I pray. Amen.

Don't worry, brother, don't be scared of heart trouble. Go on your road rejoicing. Jesus Christ...?... Have faith in God. Believe with all your heart. Don't move now. If you go to moving around, we're going have the close the service here. See? 'Cause it upsets me. See?

You got trouble in your side, setting right there, that second person setting in from the end, there. Don't you, lady? You was healed just then of it. Stand up, and just--just say, "Praise the Lord," for your healing. God bless you. [Earnestly Contending For The Faith, Chicago, IL, 55-


Only God can discern the hearts of men.
and the rest of that so-called sermon sounds way to much like Benny Hinn and Pat Robertson and a few others. vibrations???? are any alarms going off for others here???

[-GodsLove-]

Scripture and verse please. I'd like to know where in the Bible it states that Jesus appears to people as an angel. And can you please explain to me why an "angel" appeared to both Branham and Muhammed?

The Bible doesn't say Jesus will return several times or appear to man before His 2nd coming either - so how do you explain this event, i.e., that Jesus appeared as an angel to Branham? The Bible is clear that Jesus will appear again ONLY at His 2nd coming - not before then, and He is coming back in wrath.

What the Bible, the inspired Word of God does emphatically state is this:

Matthew 24:5 - For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many.

Luke 21:8 - He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.
2 Corinthians 11:3,4; 13-15 - But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

1 Timothy 4:1 - The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

Matthew 24:11 - and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

Matthew 24:24 - For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible.

II Thessalonians 2:9-12 - The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

And in lieu of Branham's unbelief in the trinity:

1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

It is clear that William Marion Branham is a FALSE PROPHET.

I agree with the verses you posted. There will be many false prophets, but one is promised to prepare the way for the second coming of Christ. There will be one true prophet to fulfill that.

Christ is here with us now in Spirit form. The second coming speaks of us seeing Christ in flesh, but now he remains with us in the form of a comforter, the Holy Spirit. This is what spoke to Branham. If you read your scripture prophets were the only ones who could hear from God in a verbal voice, the people couldn't.

Obviously Muhammed was false because he didn't even believe in the deity of Jesus Christ. Therefore the angel he claimed to have been with him was either a made up story or the devil in his deceitful work.

Branham NEVER claimed he was Christ. He claimed Christ was with him and always made Christ the absolute. Also, he NEVER denied Christ, he denied the trinity. That verse doesn't speak of no trinity or else it would have Holy Spirity in there too. If the trinity was true every time father and son was mentioned it should have holy spirit next to it too.

The only way to prove a prophet false is to judge him by the scripture. A real prophet sent from God will have works such as healing and disernment [there are many who have healing works, but none with disernment (revealing whats in the heart)], but the most important way to judge whether he is a prophet or not is if he preaches nothing more or less than the Bible.

How come when Branham by the power of Christ alone healed someone it had to be in the name of Jesus Christ and not Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? I have never heard of anyone being healed by Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

[-GodsLove-]

Branham is a false prophet, he does not uphold scripture according to what has been posted here.

This is what I found interesting:

Soon after the angel visited him and told him he was ordained to take a gift of healing to the people of the world, the first sign appeared – a physical reaction in his hand that happened only when he touched the hand of someone suffering from a germ-caused disease. Within two months of his commission, William Branham’s extraordinary gift had gained national attention. People by the thousands flocked to his meetings, where he preached salvation and Divine healing in the Name of Jesus Christ. Miracles abounded. The world had not seen anything like it since the days when Jesus walked through Galilee, casting out demons and healing all who were sick and afflicted, and infallibly discerning the secrets of hearts, hundreds of thousands of times, without once being wrong. The second gift appeared soon after – he was now able to discern the hearts of the people.

As he testified in his Sermons below:

Rev. William Branham prays: "Now, shall we bow our heads now for prayer. Father, realizing that I be afraid to step into this realm now, without You would hold my hand... Now, my mind is going back to around two years ago, when in the room that night, that Angel of God came walking in there and said, "You are--been borned in this world to take a gift of Divine healing to the people. Many will not believe you; yet many will. If you'll be sincere and will get the people to believe you, not even cancer shall stand before your prayer."

Angel of God, I do not see You. But I know that You are standing near. Please, Thou knowest my heart, and know how I love these people. Stand by me tonight. And may not one go through without faith. And I know that Your Words have been true. I've took You at Your Word, for You said You were sent from God. I believed You. And You've stuck by me. You have confirmed the Word with signs following. Now, again tonight, in this March the fifth, this Memorial night, may You stand now and heal every one. Grant it. May every demon be submissive to the Name of Jesus Christ. And now, Father, I step out here in this realm of Spirit faith, challenging every demon that's here in the Name of Jesus Christ. [At Thy Word, Lord Phoenix, AZ 48-0305]

Rev. William Branham speaks to a lady in need: Bring the lady. All right, sister, what do you think about it? You believe? Put your handkerchief in your other hand, lay your hand on mine. What does that look like to you? Strange looking sight there, isn't it? It's cancer. Come here just a moment. You know when the Angel of the Lord met me, that was the first thing He said, "Till not even cancer will stand before the prayer." Do you believe it? I want you to repeat this and watch my hand. Repeat this as I say, from your heart. Lord Jesus, now I want you to watch, see that moving on my hand? Lord Jesus, [Lady repeats after Brother Branham.--Ed.] I believe You; I accept You as my Healer; I believe that there was a supernatural Being said these things to Brother Branham. I believe His Presence is here now. I accept my healing. Now, what happened? Something changed there, didn't it? Vibrations stopped, didn't it? Your faith has made you whole, sister, your cancer is dead and gone. God bless you.[The Second Miracle Erie, PA 51-0729E]

Rev. William Branham speaks to people in need: Praise the Lord. All right. Come now. You believe? Now, just a moment. There's something dark hanging at the lady, real dark, circling her. (O God, be merciful). Oh, it's a cancer. Yeah.

All right. Do you believe God can heal you of it now? He is the Healer, isn't He? You believe it with all your heart? When the Angel of the Lord met me, He designated cancer would be healed. Come here.

Almighty God, this poor woman, knowing this condition exists in her body, I now, ask Lord, that my faith join with hers. And great Angel of God, Who met me that night, and designated, and said, "Not even cancer will stand, if you'll be sincere, get the people to believe." And Father, with all my heart, I believe that You'll heal her

And I say to the Devil, leave her in Jesus Name, come out from her

God bless you. Go, believing with all your heart now.

You want to get over the high blood pressure, lady, setting there? You've been healed for about ten minutes now, setting there. Amen. I want you to do me a favor. Will you do it now? Your daughter's in the hospital, setting there next to her. That's right. Lay your hand over on him. Will you?

Father, grant the deliverance of her, through Jesus Name I pray. Amen.

Don't worry, brother, don't be scared of heart trouble. Go on your road rejoicing. Jesus Christ...?... Have faith in God. Believe with all your heart. Don't move now. If you go to moving around, we're going have the close the service here. See? 'Cause it upsets me. See?

You got trouble in your side, setting right there, that second person setting in from the end, there. Don't you, lady? You was healed just then of it. Stand up, and just--just say, "Praise the Lord," for your healing. God bless you. [Earnestly Contending For The Faith, Chicago, IL, 55-


Only God can discern the hearts of men.
and the rest of that so-called sermon sounds way to much like Benny Hinn and Pat Robertson and a few others. vibrations???? are any alarms going off for others here???

Correct. Only God can discern. That was God in Branham using the gift in his life to discern. Branham did not do it on his own. It was God through Branham. Just as God uses us, except the fact that because a prophet has a higher calling than a regular person, he is used differently.

But Hinn and Robertson are obviously very different from Branham. They might heal, but they constantly beg for money and live like kings gaining glory to themselves. Branham NEVER did that. As I have repeated many of times he gave all the glory to Christ never once lifting himself up and everytime he made a mistake, whether it be misquoting the Word of God or something he did wrong he would make it right in front of everyone. I don't see Hinn and Robertson doing that.

[-GodsLove-]

:scripture
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."

The Hebrew word for seed here is "Zera" meaning offspring and ultimately to a particular descendant – Christ.


Jhn 7:42 Has not the Scripture said that the Christ comes from the seed of David and from the town of Bethlehem, where David was?"

Act 13:23 From this man's seed, according to [the] promise, God raised up for Israel a* Savior--Jesus--

Rom 1:3 concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh,

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, "And to seeds," as of many, but as of one, "And to your Seed," who is Christ.

Gal 3:19 What purpose then [does] the law [serve]? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator.

2Ti 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel,

The Greek word being used here is "sperma" meaning natural offspring. The word seed is used in the singular to show that the seed was the Messiah.
It can't get any clearer than that.

:scripture

Mat 1:20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.

Mmm...it does not say "created in her" but rather "conceived in her" Greek word " gennao" - it is used of conception.


Now since your saying Christ had the blood of a Jew your making Joseph his father.

When the angel said concieved, Christ was already in the womb. Nothing about the egg. Just that Christ was in the womb of Mary now.

[-GodsLove-]

:tsk Please don't try and change what I said. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God created the egg and yet you build a doctrine from it.
I have noticed in the past posts how you dance around the questions. It is rather tiring.
Lets get specific: In his sermon Paradox (64-0206B) Branham says:

" Elisabeth said that she was kind of worried. She said, "Because it's six months now, and the baby hadn't moved." That's irregular. See? Baby is practically, what we call today, "dead," (See?) as good as dead in his mother's womb. Six months, It troubled her.

And as soon as she said, "Jesus," little John begin to leap in his mother's womb. He received the Holy Ghost. The Bible said he was born from his mother's wombs full of the Holy Ghost." The first time that Name was ever called out of a human lip, a dead baby came to life in the womb of a mother.

194 John, dead six months in his mother's womb come to life, through the Name of Jesus Christ, the first time it was ever spoke by human lip, show that dead men would come to life by the Name of Jesus Christ."


Please show me which scripture says that John was dead or did not move for 6 months in her womb.

Further on Branham says this:

"When Jesus was standing there, and upon the shores of Galilee, John looked up and he saw the Spirit of God, like a dove, descending, and a voice saying, "This is My beloved Son in Whom I'm pleased to dwell in." "In Whom I'm pleased to dwell," the same thing: verb before the adverb is all. See, see? "This is My beloved Son in Whom I am pleased to dwell in." God and man becoming One, uniting together for redemption."

The word "pleased" in Greek is "eudokeo" and according to Strong's Concordance this word means ' good pleasure' to be well pleased' to think it good"
Please show me the scripture that says "pleased to dwell in"

Moving on Branham says:
"He was born virgin birth. He wasn't the blood of a Jew; neither was He a Gentile."

Scripture please?

Yet later Branham says:

"And this little Boy, twelve-year-old Child, no wisdom at all, why, but just a twelve-year-old Boy... The Father didn't dwell in Him at that time, because He come on the day when He baptized Him; he saw the Spirit of God coming down (See?), and went in Him. But look, this little twelve-year-old Boy, being the Word; He was born the anointed One (See?), to be the anointed. And here He was. "Know ye not that I must be about My Father's business?"

Could you show me the scripture that shows that God did not "dwell" in this boy?

The test for truth is through scripture, so please supply these in order to test if Branham speaks the truth, and please make sure it is specific scripture for the following:
1. John was dead in Elizabeth's womb for 6 months.
2. This is my beloved Son, in whom I am pleased to dwell.
3. He was not the blood of a Jew.
4. Jesus was just a boy without the Spirit of God.

1. What else was John if he wasn't moving like he was supposed to. I have never heard of a baby still alive but not moving for 6 months.

2. What is the difference between dwell and dwell in. They both mean the same thing. "in who I am pleased to dwell"meaning He is in Him. "in who I am pleased to dwell in" meaning He is in Him. No dif.

3. Never did Jesus claim he was Jew or Gentile. Said when you have seen the Father you have seen Me. He was God, so he couldn't be Jew or Gentile.

4. Branham is saying normally a twelve year old boy has no wisdom, but Jesus did. Jesus begans to claim the Father in Him after the Spirit comes down and says "this is My Son in whom I am pleased to dwell in". Until that time we don't no anything else about his childhood, only the time He speaks with the elders. What Branham is saying is that Christ had not come to His full commision until the Father identifies Him when He met Him as he was being baptized. You know how you are promised to recieve the Holy Ghost after your baptized, which is God in Spirit form? Remember God was still human. The body of Jesus had to reach His full maturaty to fulfill Gods will. He couldn't do it when He was a boy.

I don't understand what you ment by me dancing around your questions. I answered them. I didn't avoid them.

[CountryBumpkin]

:frust

I ask you for scripture and you can not even supply one, not even one.

Please, please show me the verse where it even uses the word"dwell" in Matthew 17: 5. You have been so brainwashed that you are seeing words that are not there and that is exactly what Branham succeeded in doing - brianwashing.

You are obviously here to try and spread your false doctrines. I feel sorry for you.



1Cr 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

[LaMontre]

Now since your saying Christ had the blood of a Jew your making Joseph his father.

When the angel said concieved, Christ was already in the womb. Nothing about the egg. Just that Christ was in the womb of Mary now.

You are denying Jesus His birthright, and consequently His messiahship by these crazy notions.

Please read the following carefully;

"Matthew begins with Abraham, the "Father" of the Jewish nation, then follows the line through David the King. Each individual that Matthew lists is of royal lineage. This gives evidence of the royal blood line of Jesus.

As Matthew continues to follow the line from David to Christ, Matthew traces the lineage through Jesus' earthly father, Joseph. This, too, indicates that Matthew is writing to the Jewish people. During first century times, if a Jewish man adopted a son, that son receives the father's lineage. Therefore, according to Jewish tradition, Jesus would be given the legal genealogy of his adopted father, but a child "jewishness" came from his mother (The Law aka: Halacha)"

"In Luke's account of the genealogy of Christ, it is my opinion, that Luke traces Christ's ancestry through his mother, Mary. I say this because Luke only mentions Joseph to identify who Christ was. "As was supposed the son of Joseph," (3:23). The genealogy of Luke and the genealogy of Matthew agree exactly with the line between Abraham and David. From David to Mary in Luke, or from David to Joseph in Matthew, the lineage changes. Only three times do the two different accounts mention the same names, Shealtiel, Zerubbabel, and possibly Matthat (Matthan in Matthew). This can be explained very easily. Mary and Joseph were first cousins.

Only in the twentieth century has this form of union become a taboo."

From here: http://www.abecedarian.org/Pages/Lineage.htm

For a biblical confirmation of the last sentence (and that Mary and Joseph were couzins) see; Numbers 36 (all).

[CountryBumpkin]

GodsLove, I encourage you to visit a website that belongs to an ex - follower of the message. Read his testimony and those of many others on his forum.
http://people.delphiforums.com/JohnK63/home.htm

[-GodsLove-]

:frust

I ask you for scripture and you can not even supply one, not even one.

Please, please show me the verse where it even uses the word"dwell" in Matthew 17: 5. You have been so brainwashed that you are seeing words that are not there and that is exactly what Branham succeeded in doing - brianwashing.

You are obviously here to try and spread your false doctrines. I feel sorry for you.



1Cr 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.




That verse doesn't say dwell. I thought it did. Well, I guess it was a mistake he made. Like I said he was human, he made mistakes, but not when God was working through him.

Thats one thing those who oppose his ministry do is find any little off the wall mistake to try to disprove everything he said.

I am not trying to spread false doctrine. I really do try my best to live for Christ. I would never purposly try to blind or decieve anyone. I am afraid you just don't understand. You find all these small mistakes to prove some point. For those reading these posts, the best you can do is study what Branham preached for yourself. I don't even know every bit of what he said and have a long way to go, but looking into it won't hurt because if your a child of God, he aint gonna decieve you

But I really do find this whole argument pointless especially because of the things you are choosing to argue over. I give up trying to explain. I see it is doing no good. Have a nice day!