View Full Version : Anti-gay ‘quacks’ to descend on Dallas
Ali Kat
October 11th, 2007, 04:00 AM
You're right. I agree that there are probably many environmental reasons as well as family issues (dad's missing from the home), etc. However, the truth of the matter is that everybody has tendencies toward something. We're all born with sin handicaps so to speak. Whether we tend to eat too much, drink alcohol too much, gamble, spend money, have a mean attitude, impatience. But we as Christians know that these are evil tendencies and we work against them to be obedient to God, because we love Him. If we are repentent, even if we can't immediately stop the sin, God is faithful to "treat" us for our ailment and deliver us no matter how stubborn a sin it is or how long it takes. For some reason, homosexuality seems to be one of those sins that people WANT to give into and justify. Like you said, a fad or something. Sexual sin is always difficult, but possible to turn from. They won't admit it's a sin, but they'll admit other things are sin. I don't get it. Some of us are born with tendencies and family histories and even physical genes that push us toward obesity, alcoholism, etc. Why can't they acknowledge it as sin and ask for help?
Well put goinghome! My mom is kinda one of the quacks that is being spoken of. She is not at this conference, nor do I believe she would ever go to one, but she is a child psychologist and she believes that homosexual tendencies start in preschool to kindergarten. She also believes that it is not a choice, but like goinghome said we are all born with tendencies and it is up to us to ask for help.
goinghome
October 11th, 2007, 12:06 PM
Well put goinghome! My mom is kinda one of the quacks that is being spoken of. She is not at this conference, nor do I believe she would ever go to one, but she is a child psychologist and she believes that homosexual tendencies start in preschool to kindergarten. She also believes that it is not a choice, but like goinghome said we are all born with tendencies and it is up to us to ask for help.
Oh I will pray for your mom. I have a soft spot for all children. I think our society as a whole has forgotten how special and vulnerable they are. Parents have forgotten how to love, and nobody is around to show what good parenting is. Child psychologists and teachers have so much opportunity, and an enormous burden, to try and overcome what we do to our children. God bless your mom:pray
Buzzardhut
October 13th, 2007, 06:19 AM
I'll pray for these therapists, they're definitely in hostile territory. I used to live near San Francisco, but have never seen so many gay men as when I spent 2 months in a suburb of Dallas last year. Maybe it was just an anomaly that I noticed so many gays, but I think the Dallas area is under siege with this mental illness.
you must have been in the oaklawn turtle creek area
it's a mini san francisco
wildkoala
October 15th, 2007, 11:34 AM
They were pretty aggressively active at Melbourne University Open Day the year before I started there. In my naivete I thought that they'd be chasing everyone around with pro-gay pamphlets like they did on Open Day.
Didn't have to worry though, 'cause Christ took care of that. Had all the Christian organisations introducing themselves to me, which was great because it meant that I didn't to go far to join a weekly lunchtime Christian prayer and study group on campus.....
Ali Kat
October 17th, 2007, 03:29 AM
Oh I will pray for your mom. I have a soft spot for all children. I think our society as a whole has forgotten how special and vulnerable they are. Parents have forgotten how to love, and nobody is around to show what good parenting is. Child psychologists and teachers have so much opportunity, and an enormous burden, to try and overcome what we do to our children. God bless your mom:pray
Thank you, goinghome. I am always amazed at how conservative (religiously) one of my sisters and I turned out considering how VERY liberal we were raised. I have been praying for my mom and over the years she has slowly (but steadly) become a more conservative (religiously).
Hope that made sense! :doh
RRuth
October 17th, 2007, 08:36 AM
There are some other possabilities...I hesitate to brng them up because there isn't much out there to validate any "anti-gay" research...
One promising possability is that children are becoming sexually aware too young, by the time they are "of age" they have experienced too much, and want new...
I posted on another thread links to a video of kids being indoctrinated by their schools. In an ELEMENTARY school the kids are taught that dealing with "gaydom" is like regarding a new vegetable on their plate. Rather than refusing to eat the vegetable, they need to be OPEN MINDED and willing to try NEW THINGS.
Look how subtle and convincing the indoctrination is!
THIS is what kids are learning about homosexuality in their SCHOOLS.
Seller_of_Purple
October 17th, 2007, 09:51 AM
It is absurd that they want to infringe on other peoples right to assemble and talk about their ideas just because it conflicts with theirs, that is not how America is supposed to work! :idunno
This is off the OP and more toward the kid indoc. idea...when i was in 2nd grade i began to think that I liked boys and girls (and experimented)....I knew that it was wrong and it was a wource of shame b/c in the 80's it was SUPER TABOO! THANK GOD! If it had been 2007 instead of 1987 then perhaps i would have told my "school counselor" and she would have encouraged me...as I grew up I got over it (only with the Lords help) and I am now urge free, totally straight...not "bi-curious" or whatever...married have a kid and so on...I don't feel like I'm missing out or oppressed...I felt oppressed BEFORE the good Lord set me free!...
goinghome
October 17th, 2007, 02:26 PM
It is absurd that they want to infringe on other peoples right to assemble and talk about their ideas just because it conflicts with theirs, that is not how America is supposed to work! :idunno
This is off the OP and more toward the kid indoc. idea...when i was in 2nd grade i began to think that I liked boys and girls (and experimented)....I knew that it was wrong and it was a wource of shame b/c in the 80's it was SUPER TABOO! THANK GOD! If it had been 2007 instead of 1987 then perhaps i would have told my "school counselor" and she would have encouraged me...as I grew up I got over it (only with the Lords help) and I am now urge free, totally straight...not "bi-curious" or whatever...married have a kid and so on...I don't feel like I'm missing out or oppressed...I felt oppressed BEFORE the good Lord set me free!...
I think that's part of the danger, as you stated, that kids will be indoctrinated based on childhood "experimentation". I think many many children engage in sexual play in ways parents might find disturbing or shocking. Not saying it's good, or not sinful, I think it is childhood sin to do such. But it's a culturally driven event that happens more often than not. So now, a 2nd grader who plays a game of doctor isn't just playing doctor..... because some adult school nurse will tell him how wonderful he is to be giving homosexuality a try. Positive affirmation..... and 15 years later he's marrying the high school quarterback. So so sad. Do our children even stand a chance these days. God, please come rescue us soon.
tom_roberts
October 17th, 2007, 11:30 PM
LGBT groups plan protest of conference for therapists who view homosexuality as a disease
its not a disease
its a sin
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