Chrysler Employees Walk

[Bernardd]

This is just sad, IMO. People are looking for jobs, begging for jobs, and these individuals with good-paying jobs want more. You (whoever "you" is) can flame me all you want, but I come from the side that needs a job - I have put myself through school twice (up to masters degree) and cannot find a job in this state, yet those with good jobs are striking.

BRAVO!!!!

[Bernardd]

Their contract is up, and it's time to negotiate a new contract. Chrysler wants to give the workers less; the workers want salary increases and stable benefits.

I guess I'll be buying a Toyota.

[Bernardd]

Aren't these the same people who are making $75/hr?

[Sister-N-Christ]

Colossians 4:6: Let your speech always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should respond to each person.

Please remember that there are Christian families who work at these companies--I don't know anyone who makes $75 an hour. I wish! It is the executives who are getting $38 million dollar bonuses while the employees have gotten no cost of living raises for more than three years. And trust me costs are up for everything from milk to gas to the light bill. In addition, the companies are asking for some pretty major cuts in wages and benefits, many of which will impact retirees. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but I would pray that as Christian brothers and sisters you would consider how some of your words might be hurtful to others on this board and temper your responses accordingly.

[name1]

This is just sad, IMO. People are looking for jobs, begging for jobs, and these individuals with good-paying jobs want more.

They don't want more, and are willing to do with less within reason. The whole fight is about saving American jobs where feasible.

Aren't these the same people who are making $75/hr?

No :rolleyes In general the top pay is just over $30 an hour for some skilled trades. Thats less than the prevailing wage earned in most trade halls.

EVERYONE is doing with less and these people, along with the people working in our government need to do with less as well.

They are willing to do with less and have agreed to do such, the concern is a commitment on investment in American manufacturing.

[Bernardd]

No In general the top pay is just over $30 an hour for some skilled trades. Thats less than the prevailing wage earned in most trade halls.

Well, $60,000 per year isn't chump change. Nevertheless, I don't understand why anyone thinks his or her salary should be based on what other people are getting.

[name1]

Well, $60,000 per year isn't chump change. Nevertheless, I don't understand why anyone thinks his or her salary should be based on what other people are getting.

Um... if you're in business, and all of your competitors are charging more and equally busy. Wouldn't you raise your billing if possible?

Do not most HR firms or departments, do job analysis to determine the pay range of a new job, or routinely on old ones? To determine if they're at risk of losing valuable employees, or significantly overpaying?

My point was merely that they're not earning outrageous pay, they're not even arguing about pay, and willing to take pay cuts. Great benefits probally. But heck, I've a better benefits package than them, and I'm not some Sigma Funkiness Blackbelt certified MBA or what not.

[Theresa]

Um... if you're in business, and all of your competitors are charging more and equally busy. Wouldn't you raise your billing if possible?

Do not most HR firms or departments, do job analysis to determine the pay range of a new job, or routinely on old ones? To determine if they're at risk of losing valuable employees, or significantly overpaying?

My point was merely that they're not earning outrageous pay, they're not even arguing about pay, and willing to take pay cuts. Great benefits probally. But heck, I've a better benefits package than them, and I'm not some Sigma Funkiness Blackbelt certified MBA or what not.

I don't know whether or not that was directed at me (my masters is in education, but my bachelors is in business), but whatever. The point is, I don't have a union artificially boosting my salary and driving costs higher so that manufacturers want to send jobs out of the country.

Unions had their place at one time, now they are past their usefulness and into hindrance territory. Just my viewpoint.

[Sister-N-Christ]

The point is, I don't have a union artificially boosting my salary and driving costs higher so that manufacturers want to send jobs out of the country.

I'm confused. I thought that educators did have a union?

Theresa, why do you think that the salaries are artificially boosted? Have you ever worked at a UAW plant? If so, I'd love to hear your insight about why these skilled laborers don't deserve to make what they make and their pay should be cut to what these third world countries pay their employees. Of course companies are taking jobs overseas. They have sweat shops over there where employees do not make a living wage. Is that really what you want in America?

If you haven't worked in a UAW plant, then with all due respect your words just sound a bit jealous and bitter as though you're angry that someone who doesn't have a master's degree is getting paid more than you. I know a lot of heating and cooling people who get paid more than me. Should I be angry because I have a PhD and they only went to school for a year or two?:idunno

In fact, you simply ignored my plea to temper your words for the sake of those of us on this board who have family members who work there and I do find it offensive, but because I'm called to, I forgive you. However, to simply say that this is your opinion so oh well you are going to share it, even if it is hurtful to others, is not Biblical. The Bible is very clear about guarding our tongues and not offending our Christian brother. My hope would be that you would take at least half a minute to consider this and pray over it before responding with another nasty post.

[Bernardd]

Um... if you're in business, and all of your competitors are charging more and equally busy. Wouldn't you raise your billing if possible?

Umm...(whatever that means)...I asked why employees in one company think that their salary should be based on what someone in another company is making. Businesses are always trying to get a leg-up on their competitors so as to reduce the price of their goods. If Company "A" sells the same thing as Company "B" but can sell it cheaper, Company "A" will have an advantage. It''s in a company's nature (and best interest) to cut costs.

What do you mean by "raising my billing"? Raising my billing?

When a company is losing money (as the auto industries are)...it's not a good time for employees to start demanding raises and going on strike.