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Sing4Him
October 11th, 2007, 08:11 PM
Transitioning

If The Purpose Driven Church is the “what” and “why” of the church growth movement and all things Purpose Driven, Transitioning represents the “how.” “If the thought of switching from a traditional church to a purpose-driven church leaves you with mingled feelings of excitement and fear, good! It means that, as a pastor, you know the incalculable worth of aligning your church with God’s vision…Transitioning is written for you.” (From the back cover). We also learn from the cover that the book will help a pastor and congregation navigate change and attain rewards that far exceed the risk. Essentially, this book is a how-to guide for changing an existing church from program-driven to purpose-driven. It is written by Dan Southerland, but endorsed by Rick Warren who says that Southerland’s church is “one of the most exciting and encouraging examples of transitioning from being program driven to purpose driven.” (From the foreward)

I always take the time to read the author’s bio that is generally on the back cover of a book as it usually outlines the author’s credentials, providing the reader with some confidence that the author is worth learning from. As if to emphasize the concerns of those who believe that the church growth movement is driven by pragmatism, the author’s bio says “Dan Southerland is the pastor/teacher at Flamingo Road Church in Fort Lauderdale, Florida - a purpose-driven, contemporary congregation that has grown from 300 in 1989 to over 2,300 today and launched seventeen other churches.” The author’s sole credential is that he has made the Purpose Driven principles work by seeing the requisite numerical growth.

I have little doubt that this book can help many churches move from being “program-driven” (which is synonymous with “traditional”) to purpose-driven. There is a logical model to follow, there are plenty of practical examples, and many blanks to fill in as part of the workbook section in the back. Those who believe that Purpose Driven churches are the wave of the future, will find much here to praise and imitate. Those who believe Purpose Driven churches are tearing the Christian world to pieces will similarly find plenty to support their belief. I am no lover of Purpose Driven principles, so allow me to point out some of my foremost concerns with the book.

First, the principles within this book are steeped in pragmatism. What works is elevated far above what Scripture teaches. If it works, in the author’s view, it must be good. This is, of course, consistent with The Purpose Driven Church which is modeled as much on Peter Drucker as on the Bible.

Second, the author misuses Scripture. In a vain attempt to lend Scriptural credence to the book, the author bases the process of transition on the model of Nehemiah, who led the Israelites in rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem. Many of these parallels are forced and the Scripture simply does not support the conclusions. For example, when discussing the reality and inevitability of opposition, Southerland writes about Sanballat and his opposition to Nehemiah’s work (see Nehemiah chapters 2 and 4). Of course there is vast difference between opposition raised by a hostile unbeliever and a concerned believer! Southerland, though, groups all those who oppose change as Sanballats.
Third, the author does away with biblical models of leadership. One of the necessary steps in moving to a Purpose Driven church is to make the church staff led instead of committee/deacon led. Rather than having a plurality of elders, a church should have a vision team which is composed of dreamers and power brokers, so that the church becomes led by those who dream big and those who have the money and power within the church.

Fourth, the churches the author proposes are custom-built to appeal to a very limited element of society. It is not mere chance that the author’s church had the average age of attender fall nearly 20 years over his transition period. The church was custom made to appeal to a certain element of society at the expense of others. Who is building and planting churches designed to appeal to the elderly?

Fifth, there is little consideration given to whether this transition is right or biblical. We are to blindly accept that it is the way to do church and to begin the process, regardless of what other church members may desire. The first step in transition is creating a vision. This teaching about vision is something that is in-line with the teachings of Schuller, Warren, Wilkinson, Blackaby and the New Age - we are to dream a big dream, call it vision, and raise that up as our standard. Decisions are made and programs are accepted or rejected based on their conformity to this vision. Yet this vision is created by a man. He may ascribe it to God and it may be biblical, but it needs to be regarded as a lower standard than the Word of God!

Sixth, the method is brutal in its dealing with opposition. There is no latitude given for those who oppose the change, even if they object on biblical grounds. Criticism is viewed as inevitable and unfortunate, but ultimately an attack on God Himself. The pastor is cautioned to remain on track with the change and not allow opposers to derail the process.

Those are a few of my concerns. Ultimately, if you are committed to being Purpose Driven, this book may help you avoid making some costly mistakes in transitioning your church, but I would urge you to spend some time studying the biblical concerns of the opponents of this movement. Determine for yourself if this movement is pleasing to God and if it really does represent the way God would have us “do church.” For those who are opposed to the movement this book has little value. It does provide an interesting case study of the Purpose Driven Church in action but it will merely add fuel to your fire. There must be some better way to spend your money.

http://www.challies.com/archives/book-reviews/book-review-tra.php

Sing4Him
October 11th, 2007, 08:12 PM
This is like "Big Brother"

or the movie, The Firm.

This is training on how to get rid of those who cause dissent in the church in regards to PDL.

:ohno

Sing4Him
October 11th, 2007, 08:29 PM
How A Leader Handles Opposition, Downloadable Transcript
Downloadable Transcript...
How A Leader Handles Opposition, Downloadable MP3 + Transcript
Downloadable MP3 + Transcript...

http://www.pastors.com/en-US/SearchResults.htm?term=opposition&searchType=site

http://www.pastors.com/en-US/SearchResults.htm?term=opposition&searchType=site


How to handle those in the church who object to PDL.. here's the training.

Deepcallstodeep
October 11th, 2007, 08:37 PM
This is creepy stuff, Sing. Thanks for being so dedicated to helping us keep our eyes open.

Sing4Him
October 11th, 2007, 09:11 PM
08/10/2007

Book Review - Transitioning by Dan Southerland

The Book From Hell

What do I mean by entitling this book review the "Book From Hell"? Using the author's own words, I have decided to make this review as brutal and forthright as the book itself. First, let me say that I am ever grateful that Mr. Southerland wrote this book, and that Rick Warren added to it an enthusiastic forward and endorsement. Nowhere else have I found such a complete and unabashed expose on the inner workings of the Church Growth Movement (CGM). I have often times been hard pressed to convince other Christians of the disgusting tactics used by the change agent pastors within this movement. I could tell that they were incredulous when I would say things like "they systematically drive out those church members who do not fit their chosen demographic". Well, now all I have to do is direct them to the appropriate page of this hideous book, and they can read it for themselves.

I call this book a "poisoned apple". Why? Because it is like a beautiful apple, polished, bright red, and endorsed by the biggest vendor in the market, but at its rather large core it contains a deadly poison. The first two chapters contain the typical "truths" that permeate much of the CGM, and this gets the reader hooked so that when the poison is encountered there is less resistance to it.

The use of these truths is a method commonly used by other cults and movements. A little truth and a lot of lies seem to go a long way in today's pain filled, quick fix society. Before reading this book, I recommend that rather than allow the author the advantage of his manipulative efforts, begin by going through the notes below. They get to the heart of the matter, bypassing the fluffy conditioning material in the opening chapters. You may think that I am being overly critical of Mr. Southerland, however I am just letting him speak for himself. Each statement below includes a reference to the page in his book from which it comes.

-Dave Thomas


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Transitioning must be planned and executed in secret. pp 78 & 79
The plan is non-negotiable. p 62
Those who disagree with the planned changes are "leaders from Hell". p 115
The only ones that disagree are ornery or mean (p 116), or whiners. p 125
The change agent must do what is necessary to secure the favor of "power brokers" in the church. p 71
Use those that have what you need p 71 like "money". p 73
You must get people on board, fight them, or run them off. p 71
You must wage war against those who resist. p 139
Disagreement with leadership is always bad. pp 112 & 126
Your church must change from whatever it is to a contemporary, purpose driven (postmodern) church. If not, you are simply "whittling" while people go to hell. pp 13 & 14
You must change from being an elder, deacon, or committee led church to a staff (read, pastor) lead church. p 112
Losing your mature Christians is acceptable (actually preferable). Southerland lost 100% of his original congregation of 300 people (p 127). In essence, he drove them out, kept their property, converted it into what he wanted, filled it with neophytes, and became their "leader".
Forcing people out of their church is actually a "blessing in disguise". They will be more productive elsewhere. p 128
You must not feel bad about people leaving (permission to harm). p 127
You must select a target demographic (those you will reach, ignoring the rest) based on discriminators like age, income, and race. p 58
Southerland's criticizers sound familiar. p 117
References to the dreaded, biblically incorrect "church covenant", i.e. "I agree that the pastor can do anything, and if I disagree, I am an apostate". p 233
You must embrace ecumenism. p 53
No church can reach everyone. p 53 The church of Jesus Christ cannot reach everyone?
Force the church staff and key leaders to publicly, visibly embrace all changes. This will fool people into believing that they actually support said changes. p 103
Start a radically different service on Saturday night to acclimate your people and create supporters, then move it to Sunday morning. p 103
Instead of raising societal standards, seek the lowest common denominator. Dress-down, dumb-down, let the world "market" set your standards. pp 144 & 145
Southerland must have had some seriously negative experiences (see gray box). p 145
Southerland admits seeker churches are shallow, but not his. p 160
Change agents must be patient and wear people down. p 41
Unless you follow Southerland's model, you are perverting scripture. p 23
Instead of creating lifelong, dedicated students of Christ that will suffer and persevere (what, no Starbucks?!?), we should create marketing schemes and religious consumers. p 44
Course Correction? (whole chapter on this) p 129. If you have received your "course" from God (which he stresses must be the case), why is there a need to change it? Who are you to change or "correct" God's course for your church (if it really is God's)?
Southerland is caught in an obvious and egregious lie and writes about it in his own book. p72
There is much more, but I think this makes the case. At this time I will not go into how badly he distorts scripture to fit his need. I will say he probably learned it from the master of biblical distortion, Rick Warren.

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Ali Kat
October 11th, 2007, 11:42 PM
Very interesting stuff. What is a seeker church?

PS I did not know that there were people that did not like Rick Warren. He single-handedly (yet not directly) ruined my experience (and others) at my former church. That is why I eventually left.

Ali Kat
October 11th, 2007, 11:44 PM
One more thing, as I read through the index - it is straight from my former church! I wonder if my minister had a copy of this book. He ran me (and others) off for questioning some basic things going on!

Sing4Him
October 12th, 2007, 12:04 AM
Ali Kat.. you are not alone. There are some very good articles in the forum to read. Please go to Lighthousetrailsresearch.com and look under Rick Warren. (seeker sensitive= Purpose Driven Life= PDL)

There is a great book you should buy, only 12.99 that will make a TON so much cleared for you:

Faith Undone
Roger Oakland

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/NiseyG/faithundonelarge-1.jpg


http://www.lighthousetrails.com/faithundone.htm

(you may need a box!)

Sing4Him
October 12th, 2007, 12:04 AM
OH and--->> :hug

Jeders
October 13th, 2007, 12:45 AM
These check lists are followed almost to a tee. The church we just left has completed 16 of 24 steps on the SWRC "list" of purpose drivenness. The list on this page reverberates loudly as well. Sad thing is, it is the established churches that are being taken over and the elderly shoved to the curb. Next step? Emergent-cy (a.k.a. aposta-cy). :unsure