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StarryEyedLad
October 11th, 2007, 10:48 PM
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Seeking common ground on abortion

The Search for Common Ground
Can evangelicals and liberals come together over abortion, gay rights, and the role of religion in public life?

Web exclusive
By Eve Conant
Newsweek
Updated: 10:35 a.m. ET Oct 10, 2007
Oct. 10, 2007 - A group of evangelical and progressive leaders, led by the left-leaning think tank Third Way, are meeting this week in Washington to launch “Come Let Us Reason Together: A Fresh Look at Shared Cultural Values Between Progressives and Evangelicals,” a new paper that calls for common ground on the toughest cultural issues of our day: abortion, gay and lesbian rights, treatment of the human embryo and the role of religion in the public square. The paper finds that among evangelicals in the U.S., one-fifth can be described as progressive and one-third as moderate, results similar to those of a 2006 survey by the PEW foundation that reported that while 46 percent of evangelicals are highly socially conservative, 36 percent are moderate and 18 percent are significantly less conservative on social issues.



Here's the link to the rest of the article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21221162/site/newsweek/

Cognac
October 13th, 2007, 06:08 AM
We want to kill little babies, will you please support us?

NO

lilbitsyspider
October 13th, 2007, 06:47 AM
There is no common ground.

jadeeyes
October 13th, 2007, 09:09 AM
WHAT?!!! Can you spell A-P-O-S-T-A-S-Y?

Cd4u_2
October 13th, 2007, 09:54 AM
Sure there is a common ground for us...

wait til you are married and don't have sex

And please use birth control pills or other form of protection if you are not going to wait.

StarryEyedLad
October 13th, 2007, 12:34 PM
Sickening, isn't it, that any Christian would even consider trying to find "middle ground" on abortion.

Sorry! Abortion=Murder.

Southern Lady
October 13th, 2007, 02:36 PM
How can "middle ground" be considered when the Pro-Abortion side won't even consider adoption as a choice? Their answer to everything is abortion. If anyone needs to come closer to the so called middle ground it is the so-called Pro-Choice (one choice only abortion).

StarryEyedLad
October 13th, 2007, 04:20 PM
A New Ambivalence
Long a black-and-white issue, abortion is now seen more as an argument to be fostered, not settled.

Difficult Decisions: The film 'Lake of Fire' follows a woman getting an abortion

By Debra Rosenberg
Newsweek
Oct. 8, 2007 issue - Although plenty of people are passionate about abortion, few of them would spend 16 years and $7 million of their own money making a movie about it, especially one that tries not to take sides. British filmmaker Tony Kaye, who says he's not pro-life or pro-choice but "confused," can't even explain why he became so obsessed with the topic. But in his 152-minute documentary, "Lake of Fire," which opens in New York this week, Kaye—who also directed "American History X"—offers an exhaustive look at the extremes of the abortion fight. Pro-choicers will wince at the graphic footage of actual abortions—including one at 20 weeks, where tiny appendages are measured against a ruler afterward. Pro-lifers will be dismayed they're represented largely through the rantings of extremists like Paul Hill, who was later executed for murdering an abortion doctor. Though it mentions South Dakota's recent attempt to ban nearly all abortions, the movie concentrates on the protests and clinic violence of the 1990s. It doesn't take into account any of the profound changes of the past decade: pro-lifers' move away from the picket lines into state legislatures and courtrooms, the battle over "partial-birth abortion" that forced Americans to focus on the specifics of the procedure, or even how more-sophisticated technology is changing minds about just when life begins.

Despite our tendency to focus on the extremes of the abortion debate, many Americans—including those who say they are pro-choice or pro-life—have come to realize that the issue won't be settled any time soon. In a national poll to be released this week by the influential Democratic think tank Third Way, nearly three quarters said they wish elected leaders would look for common ground on abortion. The country is pretty evenly divided on their standing view of the question: 40 percent of registered voters say they're pro-choice, 39 percent pro-life and 18 percent volunteered the response "neither." (In a new NEWSWEEK Poll of Iowa voters, 17 percent selected "neither.") Although many liberals fear a reversal of Roe by a conservative Supreme Court, and many conservatives fear a rampant culture of abortion, much of the country in fact seems more ambivalent than adamant.




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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21047655/site/newsweek/

MrMannn
October 13th, 2007, 09:36 PM
To a liberal, common ground means evangelicals must abandon their beliefs that abortion is murder.
I can guarantee you that a liberal will refuse to place any restrictions on abortion in order to find common ground.

The standard liberal cop-out is, "I personally appose abortion. I don't like it. BUT I will never take away a woman's right to choose."
The translation is, "I will kill babies, but I want your vote, so I will LIE about it."

ByHisGrace
October 13th, 2007, 09:56 PM
Abortion is all about $$$.