View Full Version : Could "Unwalled Villages" have a different meaning?
January 17th, 2012, 08:22 PM
I've wondered about the horses, too. How many horses is the scripture talking about? Where will they all come from??
January 18th, 2012, 03:08 AM
Unwalled villages, there are no walled villages or towns or big cities in Israel now. They are living in unwalled villages as we speak.
January 18th, 2012, 03:24 AM
:agree I know some don't take "horses" literally, but it says blood up to the bridle - of trucks? :shrug
Maybe Ezekiel had never seen a truck, so he could not say blood up to the fuel tanks or the top of the wheels either.
But I guess Russia and Turkey do have horse soldiers but I don't know how many, and Wiki is closed. :heh
January 18th, 2012, 06:36 AM
As for Wiki being down - even Google is protesting.....
Freedom of the Press. It has its good and bad points, but the law being considored needs to be much more forgiving of entities who link to sites in good faith.
And if a linked site then changes its own paths, what was legal suddenly becomes illegal without notice. I believe it totaly trumps "fair use", parody, and other legal uses.
Copyright is something to be protected. China flouts it regularly. But sometimes we go too far.
It is interesting that this is happening, we may see the early attempts at harnessing and manipulating the internet.
As for horses, there are plenty out there. Remember trucks need to run on "Refined" oil. - gas, diesel....
Wars will target such places and quickly shut down the ability to make gas. Armies will need alternate modes of transport.
And 7 years of tribulation distruction will likely make horses and bicycles very valuable commodities. Horses even more so - if you can still feed them.
January 18th, 2012, 08:43 AM
I am increasingly convinced we should take the horses literally. One major earthquake or a nuclear war (Isaiah 17, Psalm 83 perhaps) could well make Israel inaccessible by conventional methods. - A primarily inaccessible Israel would certainly feel safe and secure wouldn't she. - Horses, pack animals would be ideal.
And who knows what will occur to make the use of oil prohibitive.
It seems to me that we cannot even imagine what lies ahead. The Arab Spring proves that. It wasn't on anyone's event horizon a couple of years ago.
One last note, I remember my former pastor once mentioned that Russia had an enormous horse population. I can't find a source for the comment but maybe someone else can locate the info.
January 18th, 2012, 05:14 PM
I tend to take "horses" literally too, unless it's clear that we shouldn't. :thumb Imo, the fact that he sees the horsemen also might mean something, you generally don't see the drivers of tanks. (I imagine those looking like giant crabs :hehee to an ancient mind.)
Here's something I found about the number of horses in Russia, from 2006 though: The figures for Europe show the Russian Federation as having the most horses, at 1,319,358,... http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/archives/2007/09/105.shtml Apparently their horse population was really hurt due to their use in WW1, which is kind of interesting.
These are wild horses. I know we have equestrians here, does anyone know how long it takes to get them captured and trained for riding? :idunno
January 18th, 2012, 06:27 PM
Thoughts on unwalled villages..
Let's say Israel fights Iran and wins against the onslaught from Iran Syria, etc.. Damascus is destroyed and Psalm 83/Isaiah 17 is fulfilled.. Then Israel is left defenceless (the war would have enormous cost on the countries military and infrastructure) but believing they have finally achieved their peace and the country is in some state of celebration. Could that state of defencelessness be the fulfillment of unwalled villages? The walls of villages historically are the defences of the settlements throughout human history. Only, Russia gathers a host in response and lives up to their security agreements regionally- seeing that the loot of the region is theirs for the taking if they defeat Israel. So the state of peace in such wouldn't be a long term state of relationship in the region, but the short lived elation from defeating the foes who have been threatening her once and for all- until the reality sets in Russia is gathering to make it's move and they are left without the strength to fight another major conflict. Only we know at that point God Himself intervenes to glorify His name among the nations..
January 18th, 2012, 11:44 PM
We have to remember that, I believe, the world is waiting to see who the next president is because many know that O will cut that military down to two row boats and a Ruger. We won't be as much help against the entire half of the world as you think.
January 19th, 2012, 02:29 AM
I can see where it could easily happen if a Nuke is used to destroy Damascus. An Electro Magnetic Pulse happens when a nuke is exploded. Here is what Wikki says (So glad the Wikki Blackout is over :yeah ) Electromagnetic pulse
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the general weapons effect. For other uses, see the more specific topic (for example, Electromagnetic forming)
An electromagnetic pulse (sometimes abbreviated EMP) is a burst of electromagnetic radiation. The abrupt pulse of electromagnetic radiation usually results from certain types of high energy explosions, especially a nuclear explosion, or from a suddenly fluctuating magnetic field. The resulting rapidly changing electric fields and magnetic fields may couple with electrical/electronic systems to produce damaging current and voltage surges.
This would knock out all electronics which would include all modern vehicles.
As far as training horses it depends just how trained you want them. In a couple weeks you can have them Green broke well enough to use them but you would need a lot of Cowboys, Vaqueros or Cossacks :lol2 to train enough for an invading Army!
I too think the "Horses" is literal because my understanding of the Bible (Which is probably much less than most of Y'all's) says it is literal unless it says other wise and I do not find any where it indicates it isn't.
Again just my 2 cents worth and you know 2 cents ain't worth what it used to be!
Joseph The Carpenter
January 19th, 2012, 05:50 AM
It doesn't have to be an EMP,we are entering a period of increased storms.
The Solar Storm of 1859 destroyed telegraph communications equipment, even setting some pylons and poles on fire. If a storm of this magnitude were to strike today, it would be much more destructive. Quite possibly many of our electronic gadgets could be mortally injured by the induced currents caused by the Earth's twisting magnetic field. The electric grids and their connected transformers and generators without preparation would be severely damaged.
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