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Tiger Lily
February 18th, 2012, 03:01 AM
Interesting, I've wondered myself about Frank P's insight. Thanks for sharing that. I also like Stephen Lawhead for his history/fantasy books but I can't claim they prompted any bible study. "Just entertainment you knucklehead" (not you Tiger Lily, just a quote)! :lol2

:hat :D

old_andy
February 18th, 2012, 05:46 AM
Human nature. I have been going through the OT and despite our advancements and technology, people (the human race) never changes. God was so extravagant in His blessings for the nation of Israel and still they rebelled...repented...rebelled...repented..and so on.

Imho, when one has a basic understanding of human nature, it is much easier to wrap one's mind around the actions of those we have contact with and to understand society. We see actions and attitudes of those today match the behavior of the ancients.

Also, it gives me a greater appreciation of God's grace.

jmho

:wave

outside60
February 18th, 2012, 06:01 AM
Money 101 -
Having the proper perspective of it.
How to handle it wisely.
How to to be a cheerful giver.
How to stay within a budget.
How to live within ones means.
Paying off debt.
How to save.
How to invest.
Teaching your children these topics as well.

Acts5:41
February 18th, 2012, 07:50 AM
I read a "romance novel based on the Bible" based on the story of Rahab.

I DID NOT like it. It wasn't accurate. She married a completely different Israelite than the guy they had as her "love interest" at the end of the book. It was fiction, very loosely based on the Bible.

It also stated the walls of Jericho went down because they were poorly built, not due to any divine intervention.

"One night with the King" was another one that took MANY liberties. Haman was not an Amekelite! He hated the Jews because he felt Mordacai had disrespected him; so he chose to punish the whole race.

Two from Galilee was probably one of the better ones I read; but I felt it had a very strong catholic bent. Mary the saint... the line about the "ecstasy as she became one with God and He possessed her" sounded downright raunchy to me.

I am pretty uptight, if you want to read interesting stories about the Bible, I think you really need to go to the Bible. After you've read it through a couple times, then go read the fiction so you can spot the inaccuracies. I'd never suggest a seeker or new Christian read that stuff.

One thing I've considered getting for my own collection, one of those beautifully illustrated comic book or Manga Bibles. They are wonderfully illustrated.

To restate what I "study":
Bible
Cults
Evangelism

JPE
February 18th, 2012, 09:08 AM
We need to understand how Christianity has shaped us, and how non-Christianity has shaped others.

For those of us who have a lot of contact with non-Christian internationals, we need to know how very different their social norms are from our own. It's had a big impact on me personally and I think it is also putting our nation at risk.

This has taken me decades to understand and if I had grasped it earlier in my life I know I could have spared myself a lot of pain. I'm not sure I can explain this as well as I can give concrete examples. Here's one:

In the United States, if you ask a stranger for directions and he doesn't know the area so can't honestly help you out, he will tell you, "I'm sorry, I'm from Timbucktoo and can't give you directions. You better ask somebody else!" We all expect we'd get that response from anybody who couldn't help us out, including the average godless Joe Schmoe and not just from born again Christians who the Bible describes to be lovers of the truth. Joe Schmoe is being honest with you because that's the social norm--not because he has a personal conviction to tell the truth.

Middle easterners tell me that, in their culture, it is more important for the stranger to make a good impression. So our clueless stranger would not admit that he has no idea, so is essentially worthless to you as far as giving directions goes. Instead, the average clueless stranger in their country would say, "Of course I know how to get there! I will help you my dear!!" Then, taking your arm, and smiling kindly, he will make up believable sounding directions so that you will feel comforted and owe him your deepest gratitude for his exceptionally kind delivery. It's of no significance that what he just told you is completely untrue and you end up even more confused as a result.

Another example: your middle eastern friend admires you for your dedication to living a drug free life. You later discover that this very same friend is a cocaine and heroine pusher. Would you feel you had been lied to? Would you begin to see your friend as hypocritical? As an American you probably would, but as a middle easterner, you would not. Double standards are the norm for them and they see no discrepancy or hypocrisy with them. Understanding that double standards are their norm, I no longer scratch my head when my middle eastern family tells me, "...of course we genuinely admire you for holding certain standards. What you do not understand is that we hold very different standards for ourselves and admire ourselves for it just as much. Now, if you held our standards, you would be a bad person. But we can hold to these standards and it's OK."

I have experienced this clash of cultural norms a lot in my personal life. That's why I was so concerned when Obama said a while back that he was planning to diplomatically resolve our differences with leaders of middle eastern countries. That's a lot trickier than you might think. You and your partner have to have your feet on the same piece of ground if you're going to survey it together and come up with the same measurements. You cannot just assume you're both standing on the same ground.

Anyway, I think that subject is important for us to understand well if we want to avoid trouble personally and as a nation.

Acts5:41
February 18th, 2012, 09:31 AM
JPE, I have handed out a fair amount of Bibles to Muslims and it's a very mixed bag.

Some, I think, had demon issues.

Most are very polite in accepting it.

Some have asked me for another, the next time they saw me. What happened to the first? Better not ask! :pound

A few have sincerely thanked me. :hat

The first muslim man I met was very abusive with his family, but oh so polite to me. I was friends with his daughter. :twitch

I'll be praying for your family issues.

HeIsEnough
February 18th, 2012, 09:36 AM
Imho, when one has a basic understanding of human nature, it is much easier to wrap one's mind around the actions of those we have contact with and to understand society.

:nod Excellent subject to understand for the believer, very profitable for discernment, and for understanding the word.

Raynbowz
February 18th, 2012, 11:18 AM
If you are looking for current Christian authors, I highly recommend Randy Alcorn for both fiction and non-fiction. He's really great!

Poppycat
February 18th, 2012, 10:06 PM
I read a "romance novel based on the Bible" based on the story of Rahab.

I DID NOT like it. It wasn't accurate. She married a completely different Israelite than the guy they had as her "love interest" at the end of the book. It was fiction, very loosely based on the Bible.

It also stated the walls of Jericho went down because they were poorly built, not due to any divine intervention.

"One night with the King" was another one that took MANY liberties. Haman was not an Amekelite! He hated the Jews because he felt Mordacai had disrespected him; so he chose to punish the whole race.

Two from Galilee was probably one of the better ones I read; but I felt it had a very strong catholic bent. Mary the saint... the line about the "ecstasy as she became one with God and He possessed her" sounded downright raunchy to me.

I am pretty uptight, if you want to read interesting stories about the Bible, I think you really need to go to the Bible. After you've read it through a couple times, then go read the fiction so you can spot the inaccuracies. I'd never suggest a seeker or new Christian read that stuff.

One thing I've considered getting for my own collection, one of those beautifully illustrated comic book or Manga Bibles. They are wonderfully illustrated.

To restate what I "study":
Bible
Cults
Evangelism

By and large I agree with you Acts but if you remember I said I was pretty choosy as to christian authors I read. The few authors, Rivers, Rosenberg, LaHaye/Jenkins I did endorse were well written and bible based and did prompt me to check out scripture when it was used as a device in these books. Also because they are fiction, I kept in mind while reading that literary licence was taken. Having said that I appreciated the way my own imagination was stimulated when reading the author's account and then the biblical account.

I don't like 'christian romance' novels and also couldn't finish One night with the King and that reflects probably my taste in reading more than anything. I read much more along the bible commentary lines and fiction to relax. Thanks for taking the time to read and answer my post.:)

Poppycat
February 18th, 2012, 10:10 PM
If you are looking for current Christian authors, I highly recommend Randy Alcorn for both fiction and non-fiction. He's really great!

My daughter and I have read and enjoyed some. Thanks for the suggestion:wave