I Need Help with a Verse Please....

[Michael]

I already tried to do a "keyword" search on biblegateway.com, but I had no luck finding what I am looking for.

I distinctly remember reading in the Bible (OT) when God spoke (I believe it was God) and He used the word "Us".

I realize how vague this is, but I bet someone here knows what I am talking about. Anyway, my question is this: Who was God referring to when He said, "...us...."? Does His use of "us" imply anyhting unusual?

[scrappergirl]

well, he said in genesis, let US make man in OUR image..
is taht what you're looking for?

[BloodoftheLamb]

I already tried to do a "keyword" search on biblegateway.com, but I had no luck finding what I am looking for.

I distinctly remember reading in the Bible (OT) when God spoke (I believe it was God) and He used the word "Us".

I realize how vague this is, but I bet someone here knows what I am talking about. Anyway, my question is this: Who was God referring to when He said, "...us...."? Does His use of "us" imply anyhting unusual?

It implies the Trinity.

[blitzkreig]

There are actually a number of uses of the plural for the name of God in Scripture ... such as:

ELOHIM:

God (a plural noun, more than two, used with singular verbs); Elohim occurs 2,570 times in the OT, 32 times in Gen. 1. God as Creator, Preserver, Transcendent, Mighty and Strong. Eccl., Dan. Jonah use Elohim almost exclusively. See Gen. 17:7, 6:18, 9:15, 50:24; I Kings 8:23; Jer. 31:33; Isa. 40:1.

EL is also plural:

God ("mighty, strong, prominent") used 250 times in the OT See Gen. 7:1, 28:3, 35:11; Nu. 23:22; Josh. 3:10; 2 Sam. 22:31, 32; Neh. 1:5, 9:32; Isa. 9:6; Ezek. 10:5

ADONAI:

Lord in our English Bibles (Capitol letter 'L ', lower case, 'ord') (Adonai is plural, the sing. is "adon"). "Master'' or "Lord" 300 times in the OT always plural when referring to God, when sing. the reference is to a human lord. Used 215 times to refer to men. First use of Adonai, Gen. 15:2. (Ex. 4:10; Judges 6:15; 2 Sam. 7:18-20; Ps. 8, 114:7, 135:5, 141:8, 109:21-28). Heavy use in Isaiah (Adonai Jehovah). 200 times by Ezekiel. Ten times in Dan. 9.

The Names of God (compiled by Lambert Dolphin) (http://www.ldolphin.org/Names.html)

[Hootmon]

I agree with Blitz and BotL

The 'pluralness' of many of the names used for God is one of the better OT-only argumants for the Trinity.

"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! "You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.
(Deu 6:4-5)

'is one' ('echâd) implies simultaneously 'one, united and first'.

Sh'ma, Yisra'el! ADONAI Eloheinu, ADONAI echad!

[Michael]

well, he said in genesis, let US make man in OUR image..
is taht what you're looking for?


BINGO! Yes. Thank You. Now... who in the world was He referring to?

The trinity was not possible then (I am guessing) because Jesus had not yet come down to Earth. I might be wrong, but I don't think it is the trinity.

[HeIsEnough]

BINGO! Yes. Thank You. Now... who in the world was He referring to?

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit (us).


The trinity was not possible then (I am guessing) because Jesus had not yet come down to Earth. I might be wrong, but I don't think it is the trinity.


26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."


John 1

[B]1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.

3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

...

14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[d] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.



John 17:5
And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

[Michael]

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit (us).

Wow. Great answer (more than what I quoted). Thank you very much. Midway through reading your post, I was already thinking, "This guy hasn't really shown me anything about why it is the trinity"...then..your last segment answered it for me perfectly. Thanks.

[HeIsEnough]

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Not a problem, brother.