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dl4Him
October 15th, 2007, 11:39 AM
According to calculations directly derived from the Masoretic Hebrew Torah, Abraham was born 1,948 years after biblical creation and lived for 175 years (Genesis 25:7), which would correspond to a life spanning from 1812 BCE to 1637 BCE by Jewish dating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham
I read the above quote this morning at the link provided and WOW, I am amazed. There were other calculations offered but this one really stood out to me since Israel was reborn so to speak in 1948. What do you guys know about this? Joel, you are so knowledgeable in this? I am amazed.
Robbinson
October 15th, 2007, 04:24 PM
Yes - that is very interesting, particularly when you combine this with the teaching of rabbi Elijah (not the prophet) who lived approx. 200 years before the birth of Christ. (Note - as you pointed out, Abraham was born approximately 2,000 years after creation - while the Torah was given, in form, to Moses later, Jewish tradition speaks of the Torah in substance being given/disclosed to Abraham by God as part of the Abrahamic covenant).
(TAKEN FROM AN INTERNET POST - BUT THIS IS A WELL KNOWN TRADITION)) "It was taught in the school of Rabbi Elijah: The world will endure 6000 years -- 2,000 years in chaos (without the Torah), 2,000 years with Torah, and 2,000 years will be the days of the Messiah' ('Talmud,' Sanhedrin.97a). This remarkable quotation from the Talmud shows that Rabbi Elijah knew of the 6,000 year plan of God based on the six working days of the week, each day representing a 1,000 years in God's Plan, followed by a 1,000 year Sabbath rest (compare II Peter 3:8-10; Psalm 90:4; Rev. 20:1- 4).
The phrase '2,000 years will be the days of the Messiah' is also remarkable, showing Rabbi Elijah -- knew Christ would come after 4,000 years. Adam and Eve were created in 4004 B.C., and Christ Jesus/Yeshua Moshiach was born literally in 4 B.C. -- after precisely 4,000 years. The implication is that He would be 'preached' for the next 2,000 years, till His second coming, which will be 2,000 years after His first coming -- within the next decade!
Since Adam and Eve sinned after living for seven years in the garden of Eden, according to the book of Jubilees (see the cover article in the June-July issue of Prophecy Flash), the 6,000 years of man's 'work week' actually began in 3997 B.C. This means that very likely the 6,000 years of 'man's work' (6 thousand-year 'days') would terminate in early in the 21st century at Tishri 1 (Rosh Hashanah or Yom Teruah). How exciting it is that this truth, about the 6,000 year plan of God, was actually taught by Rabbi Elijah and that we are living in the days of the very 'countdown' to His Second Coming!"
Joel
October 15th, 2007, 06:33 PM
Yes - that is very interesting, particularly when you combine this with the teaching of rabbi Elijah (not the prophet) who lived approx. 200 years before the birth of Christ. (Note - as you pointed out, Abraham was born approximately 2,000 years after creation - while the Torah was given, in form, to Moses later, Jewish tradition speaks of the Torah in substance being given/disclosed to Abraham by God as part of the Abrahamic covenant).
(TAKEN FROM AN INTERNET POST - BUT THIS IS A WELL KNOWN TRADITION)) "It was taught in the school of Rabbi Elijah: The world will endure 6000 years -- 2,000 years in chaos (without the Torah), 2,000 years with Torah, and 2,000 years will be the days of the Messiah' ('Talmud,' Sanhedrin.97a). This remarkable quotation from the Talmud shows that Rabbi Elijah knew of the 6,000 year plan of God based on the six working days of the week, each day representing a 1,000 years in God's Plan, followed by a 1,000 year Sabbath rest (compare II Peter 3:8-10; Psalm 90:4; Rev. 20:1- 4).
The phrase '2,000 years will be the days of the Messiah' is also remarkable, showing Rabbi Elijah -- knew Christ would come after 4,000 years. Adam and Eve were created in 4004 B.C., and Christ Jesus/Yeshua Moshiach was born literally in 4 B.C. -- after precisely 4,000 years. The implication is that He would be 'preached' for the next 2,000 years, till His second coming, which will be 2,000 years after His first coming -- within the next decade!
Since Adam and Eve sinned after living for seven years in the garden of Eden, according to the book of Jubilees (see the cover article in the June-July issue of Prophecy Flash), the 6,000 years of man's 'work week' actually began in 3997 B.C. This means that very likely the 6,000 years of 'man's work' (6 thousand-year 'days') would terminate in early in the 21st century at Tishri 1 (Rosh Hashanah or Yom Teruah). How exciting it is that this truth, about the 6,000 year plan of God, was actually taught by Rabbi Elijah and that we are living in the days of the very 'countdown' to His Second Coming!"
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Robbinson
October 15th, 2007, 06:55 PM
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http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/JP888/Hebrew/QuoteChurchFather.jpg
Great stuff (thanks!)
denny272
October 17th, 2007, 12:05 AM
Does anyone know with any type of certainty what year we are actually in?? :idunno
dl4Him
October 18th, 2007, 11:53 AM
Denny the Jewish calendar says we are in 5768 but there are 240 yrs missing. I am sure you can find the link that details that with a search. Of course, humans do ere so I don't think we can have an exact date. :hug
denny272
October 21st, 2007, 11:43 PM
Thank you dl4Him!
It get's confusing.
:hug
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