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Battle Plan
August 12th, 2009, 08:14 AM
The solution to overcoming porn addiction is not just spiritual. Telling someone that their problem is that they aren't close enough to Jesus isn't really helping them. Why do spirit-filled Pastors fall into pornography? Were they not walking with the Lord when they fell?

The physical side of the addiction cannot be overlooked. The chemical reactions that occur give us a 'high' similar to drug use. These chemicals also help imprint the pornographic images into our minds. Then top it off with the pleasure of masturbation and you have a big physical high. Getting high again is what we seek out again & again.

In Romans 7, Paul spoke about doing the things he didn't want to do over & over again. His conscience told him what he did was wrong, but he did it anyway. Paul battled with the sin in his flesh too. He was a very spiritual man, but human as well.

We need to beat down the flesh and pump up our spiritual lives. We need to take practical precautions and set-up roadblocks to keep us from getting on the highway to pornville. We also need to seek help from Jesus to battle the temptations we face and for Him to provide for our needs. If we approach this battle on two fronts, we have a greater chance at victory.

djdaffy1227
August 13th, 2009, 10:57 PM
I tried many times to kick the addiction before I came to Christ. Never worked. It wasn't until I truly let Him in that I was able to even start battling. Jesus works in different ways for different people. What worked for me may not work for anyone else. All I know is when I spend time with Jesus I'm not even tempted to look at porn. If that can help someone else then it's worth typing here. There have been many other suggestions here that may work better for others.

I took many steps on my own including throwing out my porn collection, deleting it from my computer, using Covenant eyes, Not having any of the movie channels on my cable, reading books on the subject (some good, some not so much) and so much more. Spending time with Jesus is the topper.

I was very addicted to sex and porn. I'm still paying for my past sins. I understand what it is to be addicted to the stuff. I have never been happier than when I started to live my life the way Jesus wants me to. It isn't easy, but nobody said it would be easy. I've read Romans 7 many many times in my battle.

Paradigm
August 14th, 2009, 12:24 AM
The solution to overcoming porn addiction is not just spiritual. Telling someone that their problem is that they aren't close enough to Jesus isn't really helping them. Why do spirit-filled Pastors fall into pornography? Were they not walking with the Lord when they fell?

Exactly. Anyone remember Jimmy Swaggart? Not exactly pornography, but it was a similar sin wasn't it?

Married men need their wives help, and single men need to get married. End. Of. Story. I'm surprised how so many people fight to take certain passages of the Bible literally, but on this topic, they want to dance around what SCRIPTURE says we have to do to overcome this problem.

JesusIsLord
August 15th, 2009, 03:16 AM
Paradigm,

I think I see what you are saying, and for the most part, I agree. But if one thinks that he will fix his porn addiction simply by getting married, then I have some news for them: No it wont! You are assuming that addiction to pornography is only on a physical level, but as others have said, this is Physical, Spiritual and Mental. Being married will not fix being spiritually or mentally addicted to sexual pleasure or desires......it goes much deeper than that! Furthermore, what if the man cannot find a suitable wife, or what if the man cannot find a woman that finds him suitable? One shouldnt marry the next girl he sees, for that could lead to even bigger problems.

My take is this:

1) Search for a suitable, God-fearing wife. Yes, it is better to marry than to burn with passion. If one cannot master the control of their physical needs in regards to sexual issues, they should marry. This takes care of the Physical part.
2) Pray, pray pray! When dealing with besetting sins, we need Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit like never before. We need to earnestly pray over and over for Jesus to give us the strength to overcome what is overcoming us. Have faith that He WILL give you the strength to overcome the fleshy desires of our heart and to overcome the demons who wage war against us day in and day out. This takes care of the Spiritual part.
3) Study, study, study! We need to be grounded in God's Word. We need to read more and more, so that we are putting our focus on Him rather on our own desires. When our focus is correctly directed towards Christ, we no longer focus on our fleshy desires. If/when you are alone and tempted by evil, get up and take a drive.....or get up and go away from whatever it is that will enable you to commit the sin and begin reading the Bible. It is of vital importance that we fix our eyes on the Lord when temptation comes. This takes care of the Mental part.
4) Find an accountability partner who cares about your spiritual life as much as you do. A true Christian friend will want to see you delivered from the besetting sin. This can be your wife, a friend, a pastor.....it's probably best if it's the person who you would hate to tell the most!
5) Put safeguards on all possible accessibility to pornography. Dont walk into stores that you know sells those magazines, put your PC under password supervision or at least get software that will alert your accountability partner of your internet activity, intentionally turn your eyes away from anything that will cause you to lust and begin reciting a memorized bible verse instead.....or pray!

There are many things we can do to help prevent falling back into sin. Will we be perfect? Surely not. But if you truly love the Lord, you will want to die to yourself and live for Christ more and more every day. The question is, how far are you willing to go in order to put a stop to this sin?

Always remember....anything is possible with God. Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. May the Lord freely and abundantly bless everyone here struggling with this very powerful sin and continue to draw you nearer to Him.

Paradigm
August 16th, 2009, 11:01 PM
Paradigm,

I think I see what you are saying, and for the most part, I agree. But if one thinks that he will fix his porn addiction simply by getting married, then I have some news for them: No it wont! You are assuming that addiction to pornography is only on a physical level, but as others have said, this is Physical, Spiritual and Mental. Being married will not fix being spiritually or mentally addicted to sexual pleasure or desires......it goes much deeper than that! Furthermore, what if the man cannot find a suitable wife, or what if the man cannot find a woman that finds him suitable? One shouldnt marry the next girl he sees, for that could lead to even bigger problems.

Maybe I'm being misunderstood here, so I will clarify what I believe.

"Porn addiction" is a totally different thing than the normal desire a man has to have physical relations with a woman.

As we all know, we men are wired to be visual, and to seek physical intimacy with a woman. ALL men are like this, except (as the Bible says) those who are eunuchs by birth (probably meaning those men that for one reason or other have no sexual desire (I envy you!! :sad ), or those that have been made eunuchs by force, or those that have made themselves eunuchs for the cause of God (an interesting passage there, which I don't know what it is literally trying to say).

So, for a normal man who is single, but plagued by his natural desires, it is probably better to seek a true relationship with a future wife than try to release the need with "fake" imagery.

Now, unfortunately, some men are in real danger of "Porn addiction" where the man literally replaces the fantasy images for the real thing. These men start to enjoy watching acts that a normal man would find repulsive, and even if a live flesh and blood woman becomes available to them, they cannot find satisfaction in that type of relationship anyone. They have been "warped" by the smut.


The passages I speak of are geared toward the normal, God fearing man who struggles to keep his desires in check and within the laws of God. For those with "Porn addiction" their situation is far more serious and probably requires one on one intervention from figures of authority, like a Pastor or Councellor.

JesusIsLord
August 17th, 2009, 11:41 AM
Maybe I'm being misunderstood here, so I will clarify what I believe.

"Porn addiction" is a totally different thing than the normal desire a man has to have physical relations with a woman.

As we all know, we men are wired to be visual, and to seek physical intimacy with a woman. ALL men are like this, except (as the Bible says) those who are eunuchs by birth (probably meaning those men that for one reason or other have no sexual desire (I envy you!! :sad ), or those that have been made eunuchs by force, or those that have made themselves eunuchs for the cause of God (an interesting passage there, which I don't know what it is literally trying to say).

So, for a normal man who is single, but plagued by his natural desires, it is probably better to seek a true relationship with a future wife than try to release the need with "fake" imagery.

Now, unfortunately, some men are in real danger of "Porn addiction" where the man literally replaces the fantasy images for the real thing. These men start to enjoy watching acts that a normal man would find repulsive, and even if a live flesh and blood woman becomes available to them, they cannot find satisfaction in that type of relationship anyone. They have been "warped" by the smut.


The passages I speak of are geared toward the normal, God fearing man who struggles to keep his desires in check and within the laws of God. For those with "Porn addiction" their situation is far more serious and probably requires one on one intervention from figures of authority, like a Pastor or Councellor.

10/4 good buddy!

110% agree.

Battle Plan
August 18th, 2009, 07:20 AM
Well said Paradigm!

It is more common than not that we develop our addiction to pornography at young ages. I was 12 with my first exposure and was in full out addiction by 17. Marriage did not cure me because porn was so deeply entrentched that i had become dependent on it for escape from stress and to get 'high'. Marriage however did slow me down and forced me to try to be satisfied in my wife.

It is better to marry if you are not a Eunuch. Are there modern day eunuchs? Some people probably are wired to be such. By choice- that would be real tough in this society.

Peace to you my brothers.
b

Photofan
August 21st, 2009, 12:46 AM
I am going to lay it all out, this thing has plagued me ever since last year. I am free for awhile then come back to it due to medical pain.
Ever since last year when I had surgery for an unknown medical disorder this demon has been plaguing me like nothing else.i can down a buncha asprin or pain pills with hope it works or cast myself in chains to this and frankly i am sick of them both.
My alternatives to medical diagnosis, join the military last it out 8 weeks and then get seen by the doctors since i have no insurance at all or grit through pain pills, i am not sure what one is best=\

Paradigm
August 21st, 2009, 01:08 AM
It is more common than not that we develop our addiction to pornography at young ages. I was 12 with my first exposure and was in full out addiction by 17. Marriage did not cure me because porn was so deeply entrentched that i had become dependent on it for escape from stress and to get 'high'. Marriage however did slow me down and forced me to try to be satisfied in my wife.

I thankfully am not "addicted" to the smut (It all repulses me). I do struggle with the "softcore" stuff as it is not easy to say no to watching extremely beautiful women with no clothes, especially when it's so easy to find for me.

I'm an IT guy, so I can't block myself out of PC's because I know how to crack the blocks :lol2 , and I will try my hardest to completely avoid it for weeks, then I will be at work, and some extremely beautiful woman walks by, and that's it, I'm done, and I fall :(

In my effort to find the answer in God's Word, I found it, and it's not an answer people like to hear:

- If you can't control your passions, GET MARRIED and *hope* you found a Godly wife that will help you with your struggle (or that she has the same level of desire as you, but this is rare)

I have no idea why God made the desire so strong in us Men (and why not as strong in Women). This is one of the few things I can honestly say that I used to be very angry with God about as it just didn't compute in my head. My anger has now subsided to a mild annoyance though :lol2. I hope Jesus has mercy and pity on my poor sad sorry hyde :( .


I am going to lay it all out, this thing has plagued me ever since last year. I am free for awhile then come back to it due to medical pain.
Ever since last year when I had surgery for an unknown medical disorder this demon has been plaguing me like nothing else.i can down a buncha asprin or pain pills with hope it works or cast myself in chains to this and frankly i am sick of them both.

If it's not too personal, may I know what the surgery was for? How does it cause you to seek porn?

Photofan
August 21st, 2009, 02:24 AM
It's not porn really its the action and I don't want to talk where I had it that is too personal let's just say one sneeze and i drop to the floor in pain now.