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regionsteve
May 5th, 2010, 10:34 AM
Continuing in prayer for everyone.

lostdog
May 9th, 2010, 10:54 AM
I just want to thank everyone that has posted in this thread. For some strange reason it's really helpfull for me to read everybody's story and to know that I'm not the only one fighting this addiction.. so, thanks!! with God on our side I'm sure we all can break this horrible habit. Keep up the fight! :readbible

Drsone
May 10th, 2010, 12:53 AM
I also struggle with porn from time to time, I am single, I never viewed porn while in a relationship, before and after I was saved, didn't see the point. Now I follow Jesus Christ, and I have been celibate for the past 2 years or so. The Bible clearly says that fornication is a sin, and I have had a rough time finding a female who follows Christ, I did come across a few who I had a strong attraction for, but they were not Christians, so I did not follow through in persuing them (ie "Let's go get a drink." "Here's my phone number and facebook id." etc etc.) Occasionally I miss the companionship I had before I became celibate and I will look at a naked female. I don't think this damns me to hell.

I don't know about anyone else, but I believe that I have been saved by the grace of God through my faith. I believe that if I call upon the name of Yahweh through Jesus Christ I can be saved. I believe that if I confess the Lord Jesus Christ and believe in my heart that Yahweh raised Him from the dead, then I am saved.

Do I want to look at perverted sex acts? Nope. Do I occasionally look at a naked female? Yes. I have no wife. I am waiting until I find one, if I ever do, that's up to Yahweh. Am I going to beat down and berate myself and doubt God's word if I sin in any area? No!!!!

I will come before the throne, under the blood of Jesus Christ, whom I believe in and confess as my savior, I will confess my sins and ask for forgiveness.

I will not accuse myself and live in guilt and shame. Satan is the accuser of the brethren, are you gonna do his job for him? God's word is true, if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us and to cleanse us.

Thx for letting me speak my peace. May God bless and keep all of you. :)

iwillnotstumble
May 19th, 2010, 03:29 PM
I also struggle with porn from time to time, I am single, I never viewed porn while in a relationship, before and after I was saved, didn't see the point. Now I follow Jesus Christ, and I have been celibate for the past 2 years or so. The Bible clearly says that fornication is a sin, and I have had a rough time finding a female who follows Christ, I did come across a few who I had a strong attraction for, but they were not Christians, so I did not follow through in persuing them (ie "Let's go get a drink." "Here's my phone number and facebook id." etc etc.) Occasionally I miss the companionship I had before I became celibate and I will look at a naked female. I don't think this damns me to hell.

I don't know about anyone else, but I believe that I have been saved by the grace of God through my faith. I believe that if I call upon the name of Yahweh through Jesus Christ I can be saved. I believe that if I confess the Lord Jesus Christ and believe in my heart that Yahweh raised Him from the dead, then I am saved.

Do I want to look at perverted sex acts? Nope. Do I occasionally look at a naked female? Yes. I have no wife. I am waiting until I find one, if I ever do, that's up to Yahweh. Am I going to beat down and berate myself and doubt God's word if I sin in any area? No!!!!

I will come before the throne, under the blood of Jesus Christ, whom I believe in and confess as my savior, I will confess my sins and ask for forgiveness.

I will not accuse myself and live in guilt and shame. Satan is the accuser of the brethren, are you gonna do his job for him? God's word is true, if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us and to cleanse us.

Thx for letting me speak my peace. May God bless and keep all of you. :)

Sorry Drsone but just by the tone of your message you sound as if it's nothing. Looking at a naked woman is adultery;


"You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY';

but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
Matthew 5:27-29 (NASB)

Jesus tells us that anything that causes us to sin is so severe that it should be amputated, our souls are worth so much that losing a limb is worth it rather then to burn in hell. Paul wrote to the church in Corinth who had members in sexual immorality, some even bragging about it (1 Corinthians 5:1-2). He rebuked them because of this and also reminded them of this:


Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NASB)

Theres a difference between Godly sorrow and wordly sorrow, one leads to repentance the latter to death. The beat down and berate yourself would be worldly sorrow, but if you had Godly sorrow I wouldn't have expected you to have written that "you been looking at naked women" and write it off as nothing. The sin that so easily entangles us should cause in us alarm a wanting to be rid of it.


I now rejoice, not that you were made sorrowful, but that you were made sorrowful to the point of repentance; for you were made sorrowful according to the will of God, so that you might not suffer loss in anything through us.

For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death.

For behold what earnestness this very thing, this godly sorrow, has produced in you: what vindication of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what longing, what zeal, what avenging of wrong! In everything you demonstrated yourselves to be innocent in the matter.
2 Corinthians 7:9-11 (NASB)

Drsone I also want you to made aware that yes we can come to the throne of grace and recieve forgiveness of sins, but if we willfully sin and have no care for the sacrifice that was made for our behalf and we keep sinning we are just fooling ourselves.


For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES.

Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?

For we know Him who said, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY " And again, "THE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE."

It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Hebrews 10:26-31 (NASB)

I ask you to to prayerfully consider what I've written, and ask God to search your heart to see whether these things are true.


The heart is more deceitful than all else
And is desperately sick;
Who can understand it?
Jeremiah 17:9 (NASB)

As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the LORD searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.
1 Chronicles 28:9 (NASB)

I don't know if you've seen it posted but I'd invite you to come to www.settingcaptivesfree.com it's free and they have helped others who struggle with this sin in their lives.

Drsone
May 21st, 2010, 02:19 AM
I don't disagree with you, looking at a woman and lusting after her is adultery, being angry with your brother for no reason is murder, taking the name of the Lord in vain in your head or out loud is blasphemy, etc.

I believe the Bible is the word of God. No disagreement.

I will not speak for anyone else, but usually a couple of times during my day, I will have an immediate split-second reaction of anger towards someone. Maybe someone is driving like a maniac, perhaps they are drunk/on drugs or just rude or careless. Perhaps someone will say an unkind or hurtful thing to myself or someone around me. I see people steal or try to nearly every day. I work in the criminal justice field, so you can imagine what I see on a day to day basis, but I'll just keep this to "normal" interactions with "normal" folks.

I cannot help what my first, split-second feeling is, none of us can. I can control my actions, and I can pray regarding my thoughts.

So have I looked at someone in anger, even if for a moment? I do every day. Therefore I am a murderer at heart.


Do I notice when a beautiful female walks into my line of sight? I do. Do I have control over the split-second emotions/chemicals/reactions this has in my brain and body? No. Do I have control to not linger and leer and drool? I do.

Do I sin and view naked women? I do. Do I think this is just fine and not a sin? No. Do I think this is better for me than viewing intercourse/deviant videos? Yes. Am I going to walk around and beat myself with a stick everytime I think an impure thought or look at a naked woman? No. Am I going to hide from God? No. I am going to ask for forgiveness and help.

Honestly, truly, how many of us struggle with this, even married men (and I am single)? It seems many of us do. For me, instead of just breaking down completely and giving myself over to whatever deviant sex videos I can find, when it gets overwhelming I will find a picture of a naked woman.

You can look down your nose at me all you want for that, your perogative. It is still sin, I don't disagree with the Word of God, never said it wasn't.

I try my best, and it's not good enough.

Once again, the only thing that saves me is blood of Jesus Christ. You can post 1 Cor 6:9 and 10 all day, and I agree with you.

I cannot live the rest of my life without commiting one of those sins. Maybe you can. If that is what salvation requires then I am damned.

I know I am not, solely thanks to the blood of Jesus Christ and my faith in Him. I turned away and had a change of heart from the lifestyle I was living and the mindset I had before Him. Do I sin? Yes. Will I sin again? Unfortunately, yes.

Not sure what else to say. God bless and keep you all. Love in Christ. :)

Anddra
May 21st, 2010, 04:20 AM
Honestly, truly, how many of us struggle with this, even married men (and I am single)? It seems many of us do. For me, instead of just breaking down completely and giving myself over to whatever deviant sex videos I can find, when it gets overwhelming I will find a picture of a naked woman.

A better answer when it gets overwhelming is to pray and read your bible. Indulging the flesh in this way only leads to more indulging.

iwillnotstumble
May 21st, 2010, 01:18 PM
I don't disagree with you, looking at a woman and lusting after her is adultery, being angry with your brother for no reason is murder, taking the name of the Lord in vain in your head or out loud is blasphemy, etc.

I believe the Bible is the word of God. No disagreement.

I will not speak for anyone else, but usually a couple of times during my day, I will have an immediate split-second reaction of anger towards someone. Maybe someone is driving like a maniac, perhaps they are drunk/on drugs or just rude or careless. Perhaps someone will say an unkind or hurtful thing to myself or someone around me. I see people steal or try to nearly every day. I work in the criminal justice field, so you can imagine what I see on a day to day basis, but I'll just keep this to "normal" interactions with "normal" folks.

I cannot help what my first, split-second feeling is, none of us can. I can control my actions, and I can pray regarding my thoughts.

So have I looked at someone in anger, even if for a moment? I do every day. Therefore I am a murderer at heart.


Do I notice when a beautiful female walks into my line of sight? I do. Do I have control over the split-second emotions/chemicals/reactions this has in my brain and body? No. Do I have control to not linger and leer and drool? I do.

Do I sin and view naked women? I do. Do I think this is just fine and not a sin? No. Do I think this is better for me than viewing intercourse/deviant videos? Yes. Am I going to walk around and beat myself with a stick everytime I think an impure thought or look at a naked woman? No. Am I going to hide from God? No. I am going to ask for forgiveness and help.

Honestly, truly, how many of us struggle with this, even married men (and I am single)? It seems many of us do. For me, instead of just breaking down completely and giving myself over to whatever deviant sex videos I can find, when it gets overwhelming I will find a picture of a naked woman.

You can look down your nose at me all you want for that, your perogative. It is still sin, I don't disagree with the Word of God, never said it wasn't.

I try my best, and it's not good enough.

Once again, the only thing that saves me is blood of Jesus Christ. You can post 1 Cor 6:9 and 10 all day, and I agree with you.

I cannot live the rest of my life without commiting one of those sins. Maybe you can. If that is what salvation requires then I am damned.

I know I am not, solely thanks to the blood of Jesus Christ and my faith in Him. I turned away and had a change of heart from the lifestyle I was living and the mindset I had before Him. Do I sin? Yes. Will I sin again? Unfortunately, yes.

Not sure what else to say. God bless and keep you all. Love in Christ. :)

Sorry drsone I think you missed the entire point of what I said and maybe I wasn't clear enough, I'm sorry if I wasn't. I'm not looking down at you with an all high and mighty attitude, in fact I'm speaking from experience that I had to humble myself before the Lord. I had thought there was nothing wrong with looking at cartoon drawings of women, and thought that it was better then searching for other horrid material out there. I had deceived myself, sin is sin in the eyes of God. There is no lesser sin as we deceive ourselves into thinking: murder, lust, blasphemy, etc.. they all will be judged by a Holy and Righteous God.

I responded to your post because as from the first post and now confirmed in the second post, you run to pictures of naked women as justified means of escape from lust. But I wanted to warn you your running the wrong way. You should be running towards God during those times, in prayer, reading his word and in fellowship. Have you sought out an accountability partner? someone to ask you the tough questions? to keep you accountable?


Iron sharpens iron,
So one man sharpens another.
Proverbs 27:17 (NASB)
I want to tell you that speaking from the same sufferings; you can't do this alone. It is evident in the trinity that we are to be in a relationship with God but also with fellow believer's. Don't throw this advice as nothing, humbling yourself and coming to other brothers in Christ and asking for accountability is what God wants in us. He wants in us a brokenness over our sin.


The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit;
A broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise.
Psalm 51:17 (NASB)
And it says he will not despise, he will not leave us, when we've brought before him our sin. And afterwards he won't leave us in the midst of our suffering he is by and in us the whole time as our shelter.



For thus says the high and exalted One
Who lives forever, whose name is Holy,
"I dwell on a high and holy place,
And also with the contrite and lowly of spirit
In order to revive the spirit of the lowly
And to revive the heart of the contrite.
Isaiah 57:15 (NASB)

You need to leave pornography where it belongs on the cross, we're called to be holy just as God is holy (1 Peter 1:15). Drsone don't misunderstand my intentions my intentions are to warn you as fellow brother; there is no other acceptable means of escape from lust or any sin other then Christ. If you focus on him during the trying times and for God's glory you will be free.


So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed. John 8:36 (NASB)

HisMusician
May 22nd, 2010, 07:42 PM
Drsone, sin is like a puppy. You feed it here a little, there a little. Then a bit more. A little becomes a whole lot more. Soon you don't control it. It controls you. You can feed a puppy but it gets bigger. Soon it gets to be a great big fierce looking dog. And you realize you have a problem. This dog has got to go. You go to move it and stop feeding it and then you find it bites you. You have become a slave to the dog and now can't get rid of it. This is how sin is. If it is sin and you know its sin, you must stop.

Plenty of men pride themselves on their ability to take or leave alchohal as they choose. Before long however, alchohal has gotten them and it drags them down. I don't want to see you go down a path of self destruction.

Proverbs 6 says

23For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:

24To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.

25Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.

27Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?

28Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned?

29So he that goeth in to his neighbour's wife; whosoever toucheth her shall not be innocent.

But you say it's no problem. This is what God says.

Proverbs 5 says,

3For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:

4But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword.

5Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

6Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.

7Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth.

8Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:

9Lest thou give thine honour unto others, and thy years unto the cruel:

10Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth; and thy labours be in the house of a stranger;

11And thou mourn at the last, when thy flesh and thy body are consumed,

12And say, How have I hated instruction, and my heart despised reproof;

13And have not obeyed the voice of my teachers, nor inclined mine ear to them that instructed me!

I'm praying for you brother. I don't want to see you go down that path. It's a slippery slope that leads to Hell. And none who start down it come back unscathed. :hug

Anddra
May 23rd, 2010, 03:25 PM
Charles H. Spurgeon
May 23, 2010
Morning Reading


The Lord will perfect that which concerneth me.
—Psalm 138:8

Most manifestly the confidence which the Psalmist here expressed was a divine confidence. He did not say, "I have grace enough to perfect that which concerneth me—my faith is so steady that it will not stagger—my love is so warm that it will never grow cold—my resolution is so firm that nothing can move it; no, his dependence was on the Lord alone. If we indulge in any confidence which is not grounded on the Rock of ages, our confidence is worse than a dream, it will fall upon us, and cover us with its ruins, to our sorrow and confusion. All that Nature spins time will unravel, to the eternal confusion of all who are clothed therein. The Psalmist was wise, he rested upon nothing short of the Lord's work. It is the Lord who has begun the good work within us; it is He who has carried it on; and if he does not finish it, it never will be complete. If there be one stitch in the celestial garment of our righteousness which we are to insert ourselves, then we are lost; but this is our confidence, the Lord who began will perfect. He has done it all, must do it all, and will do it all. Our confidence must not be in what we have done, nor in what we have resolved to do, but entirely in what the Lord will do. Unbelief insinuates— "You will never be able to stand. Look at the evil of your heart, you can never conquer sin; remember the sinful pleasures and temptations of the world that beset you, you will be certainly allured by them and led astray." Ah! yes, we should indeed perish if left to our own strength. If we had alone to navigate our frail vessels over so rough a sea, we might well give up the voyage in despair; but, thanks be to God, He will perfect that which concerneth us, and bring us to the desired haven. We can never be too confident when we confide in Him alone, and never too much concerned to have such a trust.

—Charles H. Spurgeon

wolfiepa
July 11th, 2010, 05:09 PM
Hi there,

I'm new to this forum nevertheless, I thought I'd add my two cents. Indeed, there is freedom from pornography. I ended the 60 day purity course of setting captives free a few months ago, and it has been a lifesaver for me. It works!

These days in addition to the usual tools: accountability, filters and erradication (well amputation) of porn material. I employ other tools to assist me, such as if I am feeling tempted or aroused, I take a shower complete with cologne to smell good. Lord knows, after feeling that clean the last thing I want to do is engage in pornography.

The other thing that helped me was change my focus, that is, once I understood what pornography was doing to my life (nothing worthwhile I may add), exactly what I was condoning (sexual slavery and women's exploitation), I saw I could no longer engage in it. That made it very distasteful for me to want to bother with it anymore.

At any rate, once that was all squared in my head plus my innermost desire to honor God for the life he gave me and as a way of thanks for forgiving my past transgressions, I stopped altogether.

While it is true that temptation is still there, I am not struggling because I know God has my back. I also know nothing is impossible with God. So everyday you don't engage, you don't partake, it'll be a day of victory. Build on that and before you know it, it'll be part of who you used to be not who you are.

Peace,
Mikhail