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Sing4Him
October 23rd, 2007, 07:03 PM
DOUG PAGITT SPEAKS...IN A KINDA, SORTA EMERGING CHURCH WAY...ON CARM PODCAST
In a move which is obviously hurting the cause of the neo-liberal cult of the Emergent Church, for some reason, Doug Pagitt has been making the rounds of the Internet podcast and radio circuit. Earlier Apprising Ministries pointed you to Doug Pagitt of the Emerging Church on Way of the Master Radio.

Back on August 9th of 2007 I received a call from one of my Christian Research Network contributors; my good friend Chris Rosebrough, also of Extreme Theology and A Little Leaven. He told me he was in Las Vegas at the Madalay Bay Hotel and he had just spoken with Doug Pagitt on his cell phone while Pagitt was at the Denver Airport heading on to New Mexico.

Chris told me that during his conversation Doug Pagitt confidently and unblinkingly denied the vicarious penal substitutionary atonement. He also explained how Pagitt told him that he does not teach any doctrine at Solomon’s Porch, which is the emerging church where Pagitt is supposed to be pastor.

Rosebrough informed me that this lead to a very vigorous debate over the Biblical mandate given to pastors in that we – must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it (Titus 1:9) and what the Biblical word for doctrine (didaskalia) means.

Men and women, listening to the following program as Matt Slick asks Pagitt some very basic–and quite simple questions–it is becoming painfully clear that Pagitt, a leader in the the Emergent Church, has very little idea what the Christian faith actually is. Just wait until you hear what “pastor” Pagitt says salvation is.

You can listen to this startling program here.:

PLEASE GO TO THIS SITE and CLICK WORD "HERE" at bottom of Article!
http://www.apprising.org/archives/2007/10/doug_pagitt_spe.html

Sing4Him
October 23rd, 2007, 07:06 PM
(resusitated?):doh

A Berean
October 23rd, 2007, 07:19 PM
I guess the "fulness of iniquity" is not quite full yet, although it seems these "creatures" cannot get any more "antichrist" than this:tsk:twitch:ohno!!!

Sing4Him
October 23rd, 2007, 07:31 PM
QUOTES FROM PAGITT on AUDIO:


"salvation is when one participates with God-- we are living out our salvation..... living in harmony of God..."

"Salvation is being saved from the corrupting forces of the world"

"Salvation doesn't save us from God.. God is on our side of humanity... God doesn't hate anyone.."

"hey, you're not going to take Psalms and make it into doctrine.."

"the atonement of Jesus fits into the Hebrew day of atonement.. when healing comes, wholeness, healing with humanity and creation...."

".. if you can't be kind to someone who doesn't live properly, then you're not living in the way of Jesus.."

:ohno:ohno:ohno:ohno

Theresa
October 23rd, 2007, 08:36 PM
Pagitt is so arrogant and offensive! Why does anyone listen to him, believe him, follow him?

I pray that Jesus comes soon. I so fear that my children will follow someone like this.

A Berean
October 23rd, 2007, 09:06 PM
Pagitt is so arrogant and offensive! Why does anyone listen to him, believe him, follow him?

I pray that Jesus comes soon. I so fear that my children will follow someone like this.

I believe that people listen to, believe, and follow someone like him because it is what they WANT and CHOOSE to believe :tsk.

amy_elisabeth
October 23rd, 2007, 09:20 PM
Pagitt was on Way of the Master Radio yesterday. Hour One. You HAVE to listen to this segment (he's probably on with Todd for less than 10 minutes in the beginning) - the guy does NOT understand systematic theology and thought Todd was off his rocker for taking different Scriptures on the same subject and coming up with a doctrine *sigh*

http://www.wayofthemasterradio.com/podcast/2007/10/22/october-22-2007-hour-1

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amy_elisabeth
October 23rd, 2007, 09:52 PM
QUOTES FROM PAGITT on AUDIO:


"salvation is when one participates with God-- we are living out our salvation..... living in harmony of God..."

"Salvation is being saved from the corrupting forces of the world"

"Salvation doesn't save us from God.. God is on our side of humanity... God doesn't hate anyone.."

"hey, you're not going to take Psalms and make it into doctrine.."

"the atonement of Jesus fits into the Hebrew day of atonement.. when healing comes, wholeness, healing with humanity and creation...."

".. if you can't be kind to someone who doesn't live properly, then you're not living in the way of Jesus.."

:ohno:ohno:ohno:ohno

Oooooh boy! That salvation one I bolded is really something else! :ohno