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SumSam
October 24th, 2007, 11:27 AM
Wheat prices jump to 10-year high (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6042050.stm)

Wheat prices have surged to 10-year highs after a drought in Australia threatened to cut its harvest in half.

Australian Crop Forecasters cut its estimates for 2006/7 to 11.5 million tonnes, from 25 million a year earlier.

Harvests have also been hurt in Ukraine and Argentina, and North America, and crops have been damaged by beetles.

Should the drought continue then the harvest would worsen, and it may mean higher flour and bread prices at a time when demand was rising, analysts said.

cbressler1976
October 24th, 2007, 03:28 PM
....sigh....this is such bad news....:tsk

AllforHim
October 24th, 2007, 10:35 PM
:shocked well thats biblical!!

Heartstorm
October 24th, 2007, 10:58 PM
Glad I bought 100 pounds of wheat when I did and canned it all !!!! Might need more fast before there is none to be had.

Mitsy
October 24th, 2007, 11:05 PM
SumSam

Yep we were waiting for that to happen. Not only Australia has had small wheat crops this year but I believe the US has had poor harvest of wheat also.

Hold on to your hats we are in for a bumpy ride.

The drought has seen a hugh increase in fruit and vegie prices here in Sydney already. I'm only buying exactly what I need. I used to have extra for just in case. Not now. We have paid our house off I can't imagine how others with rent or mortgages are coping??

Going to have to re-prioritse our spending again. The Lord knows our needs I'm sure we will not be without the essentials. Praise God he is our provider. I'm thinking we may need to be on the look out for manna on the front lawn if the weather and crop failure keeps going on like this.

Justdust
October 24th, 2007, 11:10 PM
Glad I bought 100 pounds of wheat when I did and canned it all !!!! Might need more fast before there is none to be had.


How do you can wheat? Put it in metal containers or cannisters?

SumSam
October 25th, 2007, 04:22 AM
Well, manna might melt in the mouth, but look what happened when they tried to can it for another day! :lol2

Seriously, it's now easy to imagine how global famine might arise. :(

I'm not a great believer in global warming, but I do believe the statistical phenomenon of runs or streaks. It simply means that if you toss a fair coin 200 times, you'll expect a random mix of heads and tails, right? Well, what statisticians tell us is that you're more than likely to get one or two streaks of six-seven straight heads or tails. This phenomena could very well apply to climatic events like rainfall and draughts. Remember in the Bible Joseph was warned about seven years of plenty and seven years of famine. The Bible tells us people came to Egypt from other nations to buy bread, but we can well imagine the fate of the poorer folks in that time. :ohno A series of El Ninos in our age will be pretty bad for food production and could lead to famine in many countries. Africa and Asia still are net importers of food grains, they will get hit first.

Mitsy
October 25th, 2007, 05:08 AM
Well, manna might melt in the mouth, but look what happened when they tried to can it for another day! :lol2

Seriously, it's now easy to imagine how global famine might arise. :(

I'm not a great believer in global warming, but I do believe the statistical phenomenon of runs or streaks. It simply means that if you toss a fair coin 200 times, you'll expect a random mix of heads and tails, right? Well, what statisticians tell us is that you're more than likely to get one or two streaks of six-seven straight heads or tails. This phenomena could very well apply to climatic events like rainfall and draughts. Remember in the Bible Joseph was warned about seven years of plenty and seven years of famine. The Bible tells us people came to Egypt from other nations to buy bread, but we can well imagine the fate of the poorer folks in that time. :ohno A series of El Ninos in our age will be pretty bad for food production and could lead to famine in many countries. Africa and Asia still are net importers of food grains, they will get hit first.

It's interesting you mention Joseph and the famine in his time. When Joseph is reunited with his brothers he tells them that God engineered for him to be sent to Egypt ahead of them so they would be spared. If it wasn't for Joseph interpreting Pharoh's dream, no one in that region would have been spared, poor or rich. God was merciful to the Egyptians and surrounding nations that came to buy wheat. Those who didn't have money sold themsleves into slavery to the Egyptians rather than starve to death. God's mercy for his people also blessed others around them. God is that good. We should not fear God is more merciful than we think. He wants to give us every chance to repent of our Sins and turn to Him to be saved. Eventually many will perish but not before the Lord has provided them with the opportunity to be reconciled with Him through Christ.

GE 45:4 Then Joseph said to his brothers, "Come close to me." When they had done so, he said, "I am your brother Joseph, the one you sold into Egypt! 5 And now, do not be distressed and do not be angry with yourselves for selling me here, because it was to save lives that God sent me ahead of you. 6 For two years now there has been famine in the land, and for the next five years there will not be plowing and reaping. 7 But God sent me ahead of you to preserve for you a remnant on earth and to save your lives by a great deliverance.

GE 45:8 "So then, it was not you who sent me here, but God. He made me father to Pharaoh, lord of his entire household and ruler of all Egypt. 9 Now hurry back to my father and say to him, `This is what your son Joseph says: God has made me lord of all Egypt. Come down to me; don't delay. 10 You shall live in the region of Goshen and be near me--you, your children and grandchildren, your flocks and herds, and all you have. 11 I will provide for you there, because five years of famine are still to come. Otherwise you and your household and all who belong to you will become destitute.'

tygerkittn
October 25th, 2007, 11:36 AM
I can mine by putting it in a mylar liner inside a bucket with oxygen absorbers and bay leaves (keeps bugs from hatching). I started ordering it already in the bucket with a liner, though, it's easier and not much more expensive.
bucket
http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_MS+C201_A_name_E_6%2DGallon+Buc ket+with+Lid
liner
http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_ZA+B105_A_name_E_Metalized+Line r+for+Buckets
wheat in a bucket
http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_FS%20P100_A_name_E_SUPERPAIL%E2 %84%A2%20Hard%20Red%20Winter%20Wheat

antsinmypants
October 26th, 2007, 10:42 AM
OK, maybe I would be only part of the 1% of folks who would think this way... but there are other grains out there other than wheat, so even if wheat does continue to rise in cost, there are much healthier alternatives out there you can get almost as easily and at lest cost...

I guess I think this way because I HAVE to not have wheat, barley, rye and really limit my oat intake.... but seriously there are other grains... Millet, quinoa.. arrowroot, sorghum, corn... (though I do admit corn has also gone up), rice... and beans (and peas) can be milled if dry to make flour.

A mill is a little pricey (around 100-300$) but worth the cost, considering you can go to asian markets and buy rice in bulk at little cost and mill what you need as you need it...